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To: Unam Sanctam
I guess you would prefer the post-Christian European model, with churches a museum pieces and any speach condemning abortion or homosexual activity is outlawed. Frankly, I prefer the United States, where for the moment at least, the Church has legal freedom of cult, and the Church still has some orthodox vibrancy left to pass on to future generations.

This is the same logic that praises unwed motherhood because at least they didn't have an abortion. The key phrase is "for the moment at least". America has been slavishly adopting the European model one modernist idea at a time. Obviously, Ratzinger believes that it is the state which makes religion possible, when it is God that makes all possible as Christ said to Pilate.

9 posted on 12/12/2004 2:02:24 PM PST by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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To: TradicalRC

Oh yes, modern Europe has such a great record on religious freedom for Christians. The Swedes have imprisoned a pastor who dares to speak out against homosexual activity. "Hate" speech laws are spreading like wildfire, outlawing expression of Christian doctrine. Buttiglione is denied political office solely because of his Catholic views. Sorry if I don't think the Europeans are in any position to judge the US on this matter.


46 posted on 12/12/2004 5:27:03 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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