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To: Quix
Well you are welcome to your opinion, but this "Bible Codes" tripe is as silly as Wiccan, relics of the Holy Cross sold by midieval merchants, cults who believed the Bible fortold Rapture in the year 2000 and other trivia, and is actually a bastardization and blapheme against the true Scripture. I think the perveyors of this hoax are mistreating and defiling a truly Holy and inspired book and misleading gullible 'miracle seekers' in an effort to sell books. There's more profit than prophet in this crock, and they are laughing all the way to the bank.

You want God's secret message from the Bible: Try reading it straight up, like millions before have done and not found it lacking in messages, without the benefit of this 'magic decoder rings'.

252 posted on 12/12/2004 11:33:13 PM PST by puppetz
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To: puppetz
I think the perveyors of this hoax are mistreating and defiling a truly Holy and inspired book and misleading gullible 'miracle seekers' in an effort to sell books

Leaving the hoax part out, what you say is true to a degree. I don't think this is the way to go about evangelizing and I'm not sure it's proper to try let alone even possible to "prove" His existence.

254 posted on 12/12/2004 11:35:41 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: puppetz
You want God's secret message from the Bible: Try reading it straight up, like millions before have done and not found it lacking in messages, without the benefit of this 'magic decoder rings'

If you are a believer then you believe God made us in His image. So it is only natural for us to want to become as omniscient has He. That's why I'm not hostile to the research efforts.

255 posted on 12/12/2004 11:37:29 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: puppetz; All
I find your basic logic

as well as your research

far, far, far too flawed

for your intensity of conviction on the topic.

But, hey, if you want to insist that God hasn't given you a very, very Biblical gift--it certainly is your option.

I don't think, however, that HE is all that delighted with your blackwashing something so obviously and inherently Holy Spirit created, breathed every bit as much as the rest of Scripture is--including the Surface Text. There's actually no soundly logical way to extricate the Codes from being part and parcel, inherently aspects of the surface text.

We can't extricate St Paul's style of writing from the Epistles without destroying the Epistles AS GOD GAVE THEM. GOD'S VERY WORD in the Epistles is part and parcel of Paul's style of writing and vice versa, in a sense. In that writing, one can't destroy or alter or remove or ignore one, very well, without destroying or altering or removing or ignoring the other.

I find the slippery logic people use to pretend such an integral, inherent aspect is not involved with the Codes--I find that slippery logic to be a very fascinating psychological phenomena . . . MIND BOGGLINGLY MYSTIFYING but fascinating. I rarely see something where bias obliterates facts so glibly and illogically.

And, another fascinating phenomena related thereto, is how typically little research is made into the topic--especially thorough, fair-minded research--before such pontifications are so vigorously dispensed.

Very fascinating.

271 posted on 12/13/2004 8:04:58 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: puppetz

YOU: tripe is as silly as Wiccan, relics of the Holy Cross sold by midieval merchants, cults who believed the Bible fortold Rapture in the year 2000 and other trivia, and is actually a bastardization and blapheme against the true Scripture.

NO!

Your associating something so obviously part and parcel of the Surface Text is the bastardization and blaspheming against the true Scripture. It's ALL TRUE SCRIPTURE. One can't take the ice out of ice cream and still have ice cream! Sheesh.


274 posted on 12/13/2004 8:42:43 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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