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1 posted on 12/10/2004 3:55:29 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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We have a serious problem.


2 posted on 12/10/2004 3:58:18 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

There is diplomacy, and there is delusion.


3 posted on 12/10/2004 4:05:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
In his concluding remarks, the Pope gave the bishops "two urgent tasks" for the coming years: evangelizing the culture, and "building a culture of respect for life."

How many bishops will remember this in five minutes.

4 posted on 12/10/2004 4:06:18 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
In his concluding remarks, the Pope gave the bishops "two urgent tasks" for the coming years: evangelizing the culture, and "building a culture of respect for life."

The pope was also heard to say "Well diddled, my good and faithful servants, now go forth and get caught no more." ;^(

5 posted on 12/10/2004 4:08:09 PM PST by pipecorp (this space no longer exists)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The Pontiff also praised the American hierarchy for its efforts "to ensure… that each of the Church's institutions and apostolates expresses, in every aspect of its life, a clear Catholic identity."

Did you copy and paste this article is from the far reaches of bizarro world? Sad to the point of being comical.

I don't know what I find more disturbing, the thought of him being out of touch and not realizing what he's says and does, or the thought of him being in touch and meaning what he says and does.

10 posted on 12/10/2004 5:13:16 PM PST by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I wonder what kind of lies these bishops told our pope?


11 posted on 12/10/2004 5:14:50 PM PST by rogator
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13 posted on 12/10/2004 6:04:57 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

The Pope believes that the bishops have dealt "fairly and forthrightly with the serious pastoral issues which have been raised"

Either the Pope is not in control of his intellectual faculties or he is being dishonest. There was nothing fair or forthright about the way the bishops handled the sex-abuse scandals. They suppressed dealing with its real cause: homosexuality in the clergy. And they studiously avoided their own complicity in the systemic corruption. What's more, the Pope had to know all this once upon a time.

These same men covered up the destruction of thousands of young lives not for months or years, but for decades, paying out hush money to the tune of almost a billion dollars. They are still paying. And they bullied the victims and their parents by any means at their disposal. In some cases some victims committed suicide. For all this, not a single bishop has been removed or even censured, only hapless priests who were only the tip of the homosexual iceberg. So now these moral cowards get a pat on the head for going through the motions. Not a word for the victims.

Anybody still want to argue why traditionalists believe this Pontiff lacks good judgment? It was John Paul, remember, who argued that defending the traditional Mass against its planned destruction was an act of schism. He gave Lefebvre and company the back of his hand. His fulsome praise for the disgusting collective performance of such unworthy men is still another indication of his general failure.


14 posted on 12/10/2004 6:34:25 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Can someone translate this from Entish into plain language? Or does the Pope always seem to speak publicly in platitudes without directly addressing the issues?


15 posted on 12/10/2004 6:44:32 PM PST by ikka
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The Pope said that during his meetings with all the members of the American hierarchy, over the course of the last several months, he had "witnessed your determination to deal fairly and forthrightly with the serious pastoral issues which have been raised as a result" of the scandal.

LOL. They created the scandal. They are the very reason we have this problem. It's like catching a serial killer, putting him in jail and then applauding him because he didn't kill anyone on his first day in the slammer.

17 posted on 12/10/2004 7:03:36 PM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Ok....Once you've read this, you have the same reaction as everyone who has commented here. We've all grasped the obvious.

Now...go back and read the whole thing again, and see if THIS doesn't stop you in your tracks!!:

"The Pontiff also praised the American hierarchy for its efforts 'to ensure… that each of the Church's institutions and apostolates expresses, in every aspect of its life, a clear Catholic identity.'"


18 posted on 12/10/2004 8:53:38 PM PST by Tadhg Séamus (Fad saol agat, gob fliuch, agus bas in Eirinn.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Laugh or cry? I am beside myself.


19 posted on 12/10/2004 9:08:50 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Amazing


23 posted on 12/11/2004 5:28:39 AM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
he must have been referring to how the bishops handled the priestly abuse outrage after the coverup was revealed.
24 posted on 12/11/2004 8:26:00 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

At least I hope so.


25 posted on 12/11/2004 8:26:23 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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"The Pontiff also praised the American hierarchy for its efforts "to ensure… that each of the Church's institutions and apostolates expresses, in every aspect of its life, a clear Catholic identity.""

Has the pope's parkinsonism given way to dementia?


34 posted on 12/12/2004 2:37:16 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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First we have the pope (or those who speak for the pope) praising the US bishops handling of the sodomite scandal and now we have McCarrick waxing lyrical in support of the mad, modern Jesuits and their anti-Catholic colleges...
http://www1.georgetown.edu/explore/news/?ID=1493


42 posted on 12/14/2004 5:32:04 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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