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To: Pio

"Somehow you forgot to quote the person who denounced the IC as Satanic.
You can take a hike too.
Come debate anytime...you'll be blown right out of the water by my more eloquent and educated brothers...smear Christian Doctrine as Satanic and you'll get me.
There is no Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church..put that in your pipe and smoke it."


Yes, I overlooked the "satanic" remark. Consider it rebuked.

I will not "take a hike", because I do so enjoy debating pleasant folks like you!

I agree that you and your brothers are "eloquent and educated", and might I add humble!

I understand the RCC's position that salvation is confined to the RCC. If that is true, you're "good to go". Myself and fellow Prots, then, are doomed to hell. May I commend you on an excellent job of trying to bring us back into the fold!

May God bless you and yours, and have a joyous Christmas!


39 posted on 12/08/2004 1:45:38 PM PST by armydoc
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To: armydoc
I understand the RCC's position that salvation is confined to the RCC. If that is true, you're "good to go". Myself and fellow Prots, then, are doomed to hell.

That may be Pio's position, but it's not the position that the Church takes. God judges you on what you willfully do that is wrong, and if your Protestantism is an honest effort to serve him, heaven is not closed to you. On the other hand, if (for instance) you believe Catholicism is true but stay a Protestant so you don't have to resign your country-club membership ... uh-oh.

There will be many good and righteous Protestants in heaven, and many false-brethren "Catholics" in hell. But once they get to heaven, all the Prots are certainly part of the "Catholic" (=universal) church, and none of those in hell are part of it any longer.

40 posted on 12/08/2004 2:43:35 PM PST by Campion
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To: armydoc
"I understand the RCC's position that salvation is confined to the RCC. If that is true, you're "good to go". Myself and fellow Prots, then, are doomed to hell. May I commend you on an excellent job of trying to bring us back into the fold!"

Let me grab my calculator. Obstinate denial of divinely revealed doctrines + bein' a real affable dood = salvation?

42 posted on 12/08/2004 4:54:14 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: armydoc
"I understand the RCC's position that salvation is confined to the RCC."

Being inside the Church is necessary but not sufficient. Get it? No one can be sure of their salvation while they're still breathing. Only the born-agains seem to express their utmost confidence in their personal salvation. Catholics work it out, they pray, fear God, worship Jesus, obey the Commandments, repent when they sin and then pray some more.

There are provisions made for people who have never heard of Jesus Christ.

There are ways to challenge Christians about their ideas. We invented the University. You won't meet a bunch of people more willing to kick around ideas. (Hence our numerical domination of freepnet.) Can you open your mind to the concept that defaming Marian devotion (which has been a Christian practice that long predates any "denomination") as Satanic can rile people?

Again, I say, denouncing Mary (and what she tells us to do) as Satanic will get you nowhere with Christians nor with Christ.

47 posted on 12/09/2004 5:12:31 AM PST by Pio (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus)
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