[AskStPhilomena]

This article was written way back in 1985. There are still only rotten fruits - unless of course you consider the continued growth of traditional Catholicism.

[AskStPhilomena]

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[26lemoncharlie]

Very good article, considering that it was written in 1985, the destruction of the Roman Catholic Church continues. It will be reversed by the repeal of Vatican II and a return to the Laws and Rites prior to V2. SSPX priests are now practicing the Tridentine Mass. The time has come to take back our Religion and the Church.

[Wessex]

I did not realise Davies was such a fan of Ratzinger back then. However, this article begs the question that, if those in authority regretted the consequences of Vatican II, they have since shown great impotence in their ability (or desire) to arrest the reforms. Such bleating can of course become an industry and is in fact part and parcel of the conservative approach which is nervous of both the past and of the future. Even strong traditionalists are inclined to believe that the new order is an unstoppable force and some kind of comfortable resignation is preferable to the long harsh winters of exile.

[bornacatholic]

"BY THEIR FRUITS you shall know them

Davies wrote a lot for schismatic rags encouraging schismatics to remain in schism thereby putting their souls on the road to eternal perdition.

[bornacatholic]

"BY THEIR FRUITS you shall know them

Davies wrote a lot for schismatic rags encouraging schismatics to remain in schism thereby putting their souls on the road to eternal perdition.

[B Knotts]

I think it is fair to say that there have been some positive developments in the post-concilar era. It's my understanding that the Church has grown tremendously in Africa in the past 40 years.

That said, the situation in the West has certainly not been positive.

I am certainly a critic of some of what has come about since Vatican II, but I'm not sure it's a "cause/effect" relationship. Pope St. Pius X wrote of the modernism that was threatening the Church from within nearly a hundred years ago.

I am more inclined to think that some of the nonsense we've seen in the years since Vatican II is really just a reflection of the sickness of modernism that predated it. At worst, Vatican II acted as a conduit, and was misused by people that would have used anything available to them to further their ends.

In other words, I'm not sure that even without Vatican II, we wouldn't be facing the same sorts of problems. I'm afraid that sometimes, by focusing too much energy on the perceived faults of Vatican II, we miss the real source of the problem.