[Stubborn]

Confusing the lack of the Sacrament with the validity of the marriage is quite common with the novus ordo folks. The Sacrament may be lacking but the contracted marriage is valid - assuming there were no diriment impediments involved.

[GratianGasparri]

Confusing the lack of the Sacrament with the validity of the marriage is quite common with the novus ordo folks. The Sacrament may be lacking but the contracted marriage is valid - assuming there were no diriment impediments involved.

Oh good grief... if you are really a traditionalist and not a troll, please...please...please approach your priest to discuss this issue. It has nothing to do with Novus Ordo vs. Tridentine. Between two baptized, it is theologically IMPOSSIBLE for a marriage to be valid without by that very fact being a sacrament.