Standing in Awe – A Freeper Research Project

Freeper Research | November 14, 2004 | Various

[D Edmund Joaquin]

I'm missing something in your reasoning, but you tend to be rather circular. Are you an old saw?

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What, in your opinion, is an old saw?

[D Edmund Joaquin]

An old adage, but it was a pun. It should have had a warning label, sorry

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your reply! I actually quoted something very similar from Einstein in the body article. But I'll repeat it here:

From Einstein’s speech “My Credo” in 1932:

The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that there is.

Of course the way we each look at good v evil will be quite different. But in viewing the Scriptures as a whole - from Genesis to Revelation - and the Lord's Prayer - I see God having a purpose for making a beginning and in the end there will be a new heaven and earth and His family.

It seems to me (since He alone is the uncaused cause) - that He would have a method to reveal Himself to the spiritual creatures who would become members of His family.

Since one cannot know what good (a property of God) is without seeing it in contrast to what it is not (evil) – I deduce that God would show both to His beloved creatures in order to reveal Himself. The same would apply to truth v lie, life v. death, courage v. fear, love v. hate, health v sickness and so on.

My two cents, FWIW.

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I'm sure you will correct my spelling, and feel free to do so but, I believe Ockams razor is true for many things in this life.

Pshycoanalizing, dissecting and rearranging things serves no purpose but to confuse.

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I knew what you meant. I was being factious and a smarty-pants.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science.

Well, now here is a nub. Art, science, and religion, on one level, aren't they one and the same?

But,you know religion that is man-made, is not the same as Worship of the One True God of Jews and Christians. The natural man can not see the difference.

Therefore, he thinks all forms of paganism, including self-worship, and the worship of his own hands, is equal to Christianity.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

Pshycoanalizing, dissecting and rearranging things serves no purpose but to confuse.

Yes, I agree, and when interacting with a blind person, it's just downright mean

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You do possess humor. You have just risen 10 points in my estimation of you.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

LOL. Good. After all, this is discussion, iron sharpens iron

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Doesn't scissors cut paper and paper cover rock?

[D Edmund Joaquin]

no, that's Buddhism

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I thought Zin, was Buddhism.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

No that's a white wine. However, it brings up a point: With all those Asians believing in Buddha, does he exist?

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He may to them but not to me.

What say you on this. Suppose now...just for the sake of supposing. What if Budda, allah(not capitalized on purpose) and all other religions Gods were in fact the same God, simply arranged to fit their faiths. My God is the one true God. I know that.

But what if they think 'their' God is the one true God. When we all die let God settle it?

[D Edmund Joaquin]

No, it really is quite simple to determine. First of all, no one has an excuse anymore, whereever the Gospel has been preached, to claim that they didn't know the difference. They judge themselves in how they respond to the good news of Jesus Christ. If, by some reason, they do not know, God will judge them on His terms, not ours.

Second, you have to be able to discern the difference between the religion of Cain and that of Abel. Here is the point that I'm making to AG. The natural man can not know the difference.He thinks his Cain style of religion is just as good, even though it's not the real thing. Therefore his allahs are the same as the Baal religions, and note that allah was once a rain god.

Buddha, on the other hand is the result of man going in search of himself. At the end of the rainbow, that's exactly what he finds, himself, and comes to the conclusion, eureka! I am god!

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I agree with you on your first paragraph. In Sunday School we were taught that only those who have never heard the word of God cannot be punished with damnation.

On your third paragraph. Buddha is a God of self-gradifiers?

[D Edmund Joaquin]

Well if you study Buddhism, it is basically man going in search of God. Now a tenet of Judaism and Christianity, is that man can look all he wants to, but God is in control and finds man. No matter how hard he tries, man will never find God, unless God allows him to. You can see how this gives rise to errors, in man thinking that he has found God and then forms a religion, founded upon their own ideas. Or, they find Nature, and that being the highest they can think, outside of themselves, they begin to worship the creature, rather than the Creator.

Buddhists believe that they too can find God, that it's just a matter of bringing the body under their own control. They will meditate, and so, having only themselves to know, they have no other conclusion to arrive at, other than they themselves, the Atman, is God.

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I have no witty repartee for your post. You have said all I am unable to articulate.

I meditate at times to clear my head when I am in pain. I do not like taking drugs. Would my meditations be considered Buddhism? Is meditation in and of itself a strictly Buddhist practice?

[D Edmund Joaquin]

No. God gave you an intellect to worship Him with, in Spirit and in Truth. I often meditate, but it is upon the Word of God, or upon such issues as AlamoGirl likes to discuss. Nothing wrong with that. However, those confused people who intentionally meditate upon dark subjects having to do with evil, or opening themselves up to evil, will find it. Ever notice how transcendentalism, so popular a few decades ago, never amounted to anything good?