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chosen before the foundation... may not be referring to individuals but rather a group of individuals... just a thought. "Chosen" may not be a reference to salvation, but rather a calling or service unto God.

You and I both know that God creates nothing which is evil, so the correlation cannot be a valid one. God creates things that are good. They are then corrupted by us. God does however use ALL things (good and evil) to further His will.

"You and I both know that God creates nothing which is evil, so the correlation cannot be a valid one. God creates things that are good. They are then corrupted by us. God does however use ALL things (good and evil) to further His will."

That is exactly correct, we are told that Lucifer, Satan, the devil,the serpent, the dragon, the instead of christ, the play actor, king of Babylon, all those roles he has played, and will be allowed to play, was created perfect.

We are given the history of Lucifer, and he was created as the anointing cherub, yet even in his beauty and perfection, he rebelled and he decided he was 'god' and he drew a third part of the stars of heaven.

Now given we are told this about the devil, who do you think those "stars of heaven" are?