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To: fortheDeclaration
As for the days moving toward that direction 1Tim.4 and 2Tim.3 are pretty clear that the apostasy will get worse.

God's true church is NOT represented by SOME (1Tim4:1), nor by men (2Tim3:2), nor by those with a form of Godliness <(2Tim3:5), nor by women with sin (2Tim3:6), nor by evil men and impostors (3Tim3:13).
I see no identifiers of The Church in your references.

What prompts God to end this dispensation is when the Body of Christ is complete.

Do you have a reference for this?


1,489 posted on 01/17/2005 5:32:28 PM PST by Safrguns
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Oops... last ref = 2Tim3:13... sorry


1,490 posted on 01/17/2005 5:33:49 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
God's true church is NOT represented by SOME (1Tim4:1), nor by men (2Tim3:2), nor by those with a form of Godliness <(2Tim3:5), nor by women with sin (2Tim3:6), nor by evil men and impostors (3Tim3:13). I see no identifiers of The Church in your references

Paul says they shall 'depart from the faith' that is the definition of apostasy.

In 2Tim. the context shows that Paul is directing Timothy how to deal with his sheep.

He is telling Timothy to exhort, reprove, rebuke, with all longsuffering and doctrine' believers, not unbelievers.

Why?

Because there will come a time when they will not endure sound doctrine.

This is directed to the church, not the unbeliever.(see also 2Pe.2)

The church is removed when the Body is complete.

It is an inference from the fact that the Church is the Body of Christ (1Cor.12) and His Bride.(Eph.5:23-32)

Once the Body is complete there is no reason any longer for the church to remain on earth and Christ will receive His bride in heaven as complete (Eph.5:27)

Then will begin the Tribulation (Jacobs trouble Jer.30:7)

1,509 posted on 01/20/2005 12:07:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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