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To: fortheDeclaration
Rev.3:14-19, church of Laodica (lukewarm church) is the church of today.

I don't think that the messages in Rev to the churches were prophetic of the entire body of Christ... then or in the end times. If you select one message to represent the entire body of Christ (God's church... not churches) at a particular time, then you must also use the other messages to represent the entire body of Christ at some other period in time. And, since these messages are so different in nature, the body of all messages would represent a rollercoaster ride that God's Church simply hasn't been on.

I believe that the messages in Rev were specific to groups of believers at that time... however all of the common successes and failures of different churches throughout this age are most likely represented in these messages.

I'm pretty confident that my challenge is unbeatable for this reason... Failure of God's Church would have to be defined as "no Spirit-led evangelism which results in the winning of soles'. That is what the Church's mission is... and as long as the Holy Spirit is here, that Spirit-led evangelism will continue until the Holy Spirit is removed (along with us with Him)

As for a massive revival occuring, there is no revival, only attempts to minic one. What translation are using?

The signs and wonders are only beginning.
The things this world will see THIS YEAR and in the remaining years (if there are any) will be NOTHING like man has ever seen before... Lots of prophesies in the bible on this.
Think about it... what happened immediately after 9/11? If you remember, more than half of this nation was practically on it's knees!... Talk of God was all over the TV... and continues in even greater frequency today. What do you think will happen when even greater events (such as the Tsunami) start occurring with the type of frequency which leaves little doubt that God is involved? Yes... the massive revival IS occuring... it is occuring now... Bush's massive victory at the polls speaks of it. The unprecedented coverage of God and Christianity in the news today speaks of it. God's Church is winning more lost soles today than it ever has before, and this trend will continue until we have reached all corners of the earth.


1,445 posted on 01/13/2005 6:47:24 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
While it is true all seven churches could be found operating during any one particular age, one type seemed to define the age as such.

Thus, this age, the laodican period is defined as being 'lukewarm', rejecting sound doctrine, having itching years.

As for a 'revival'much of what is preached as the Gospel is not the gospel, but a new age substitute "come join Jesus'.

The diasters that we are seeing in these days are not changing mens hearts, but after a short time they return to their old ways.

The re-election of Bush was an encouraging sign that God in His mercy maybe giving this nation some more time to repent.

Winning souls is not a sign of revival, since even in the Tribulation, souls will be won.

1,446 posted on 01/14/2005 4:01:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Safrguns

The unprecedented coverage of God and Christianity in the news today speaks of it.

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My husband and I were astonished last night while watching our local ABC News (Central Florida) asking if we are now in the End Times.

The reporter interviewed two or three 'experts'


1,449 posted on 01/15/2005 11:12:04 AM PST by Bennett46
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