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To: Quix
No... I don't think it really matters. If you know a lot about angels and their attributes from the bible (evil or not), you might find that their actions in the bible are inconsistent with that of demons... i.e. no fallen angel would have any need or desire to 'possess' a human body. Their bodies are already far superior to ours, and it would simply be of no use to them. Demons on the other hand are disembodied spirits. They DO desire to control flesh, because it is something they used to have but have lost.
So... the question then becomes... where did demons come from if they are not fallen angels? There is also discussion about the original greek translations of the phrase 'formless and void' in Genesis 1:2, which is said to be more like the aftermath of destruction, rather than the emptiness following creation as most assume. So, if Genesis 1:2 is describing the destruction of earth, what was destroyed?
This then takes us to other various scriptures which give hints and implications of a race of beings that existed before Adam's time. Which ones? I don't know... I got most of this from a sunday school class taught by someone who was EXTREMELY familiar with Hebrew... It made sense to me, and I know this guy well... someone who is closer to God than anyone else I can think of. He actually worked with Einstein at one point in his life... very smart guy.
1,234 posted on 12/21/2004 2:43:50 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
Safrguns..You sound just like me.
I swear, I was reading your post, thinking to myself, "when did I post this?"...:)
1,235 posted on 12/21/2004 2:51:49 PM PST by concretebob (but what do I know, I'm just an ignorant peasant)
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To: Safrguns
I would have LOVED to have been in that Sunday School class.
What a marvelous way to justify/reinforce/verify, one's faith.
(not sure if any of those descriptors are correct in context, but that could be another 1100+ post thread)
1,238 posted on 12/21/2004 3:01:40 PM PST by concretebob (but what do I know, I'm just an ignorant peasant)
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To: Safrguns; concretebob; Alamo-Girl; All

Safr, CB, A-G,

I'm not remotely as informed on this topic as you folks. I have read the Scriptures several times.

I don't have any reason to disagree with anything you folks have said.

OH, BTW, the SciFi channel is having 3 UFO shows on tonight.

I suspect a major factor in demons wanting bodies is some way to impact our time/space dimension and particularly man in destructive vengeful ways.

Have always felt that void and without form as the world was before ADAM meant it's shape after God mushed everything all up from whatever civilization etc. existed before. Who but God knows how many times He's done such a thing. Quite a boot camp to rear rulers in!

If you still have access to the co-worker with Einsetin, I have some questions to forward along. That would be the 2nd sort of access I've had of that sort. First one was deceased and I became a friend of his daughter.

Thanks tons for the dialogue.

BTW, the first show on Sci Fi on now is Rendlesham forest incident


1,245 posted on 12/21/2004 4:04:05 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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