[BibChr]

If you're saying that the Roman Catholic Church did not fundamentally change (i.e. reform), you're basically right. It has worsened some, but along the same lines.

Dan

[Stubborn]

The Reformation, is more appropriately known in less popular circles as "The Revolt", or "The Great Revolt" because it was not cause for reformation within the Church, it was cause for the advent of Protestantism, which was the separation from the Catholic Church in protest.

I agree that there were things happening in the Church at that time that were in need of reformation, but to separate from the Catholic Church due in no small part to Luther, an apostate Catholic monk, is not an act of reformation, it is an act of open defiance to the Church that Christ Himself established.

The Brown Scapular was around long before the Revolt, as such, Luther, and most everyone knew that it was no magic carpet ride to heaven, but somewhere in the process of defiance against the Church, Our Blessed Mother, once a popular and very great and necessary asset, loved and venerated by all, became a major hinderance and obsticle to salvation for those who separated themselves for the Catholic Church.

Our Lady is still a very great and necessary asset - that has never changed. What has changed though, is people's faith. This change came about because people severed themselves from the Church that God Himself came down to earth to establish, under the guise of an obvious mis-nomer called "The Reformation".

[fidelis]

Theoretically, you should have 30,000 Reformation Days, since that's about how many times Protestant churches have split to form new denominations.

Thanks, Martin X 30,000.