[american colleen]

However, I would mention that contemplative prayer could be misunderstood as coming from this same centering prayer tradition. This is not the case. The Carmelites have been practicing contemplative prayer, as have many other religious orders (Carthusians, Poor Clares, etc.) for a very long time. I can speak of the Carmelite tradition and point to St. John of the Cross for such a tradition.

I agree and this is where the 'centering' people confuse... they mix both up and point to some of the saints who were contemplatives.

[ventana]

Hi Colleen@

Contemplatives were always on a journey away from self, though, as opposed to a journey into the self.

(long time no talk; hope you and your family are well) V's wife.