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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Your reply is the most vile, reprehensible and scurrilous drivel that I have read on any thread. I won't bother even replying further at this time to someone who obviously is super defensive and overly willing to impugn someone who happens to have a different view on what the Bible says.

Presby, hope your "casting the first stone" was cathartic and made you feel better.


91 posted on 10/17/2004 1:57:39 PM PDT by gracebeliever
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To: gracebeliever; OrthodoxPresbyterian; thePilgrim
Calm down. There was nothing "vile" in OP's post. He's making the point that Arminians believe God's grace is not all that is required for salvation, but that man must make his own contribution in order for Christ's sacrifice to become effective. Participatory grace.

OP's illustrating that's not Scriptural.

With your tag, I would expect you to understand the difference.
92 posted on 10/17/2004 2:55:23 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: gracebeliever; Dr. Eckleburg
Your reply is the most vile, reprehensible and scurrilous drivel that I have read on any thread. I won't bother even replying further at this time to someone who obviously is super defensive and overly willing to impugn someone who happens to have a different view on what the Bible says. Presby, hope your "casting the first stone" was cathartic and made you feel better.

FWIW, I didn't "cast the first stone".

Rather, it was you who impugned the Biblical Doctrine of Total Depravity as "what man has done by twisting God's Word to suit a particular dogma".

In short, you attempted to deride and evade what the Bible actually teaches on the subject of Fallen Man's Total Depravity -- making no attempt whatsoever to address or even consider the ample Scriptures which I offered on the subject -- as though the Biblical Doctrine of Human Depravity were a mere "Tradition of Men", rather than the express teaching of the Bible.

No, sorry. I won't stand for that. I will not accept the express teaching of the Scripture to be impugned as "what man has done by twisting God's Word to suit a particular dogma". I consider such a cavalier and humanistically-willful treatment of Scripture to be actually HATEFUL to the Bible, and I will not apologize for saying so.

If this offends you -- try actually addressing the Scriptures which I have posted, rather than taking the "easy way out" of claiming that you are emotionally-wounded by my presentation thereof.

Best, OP

117 posted on 10/19/2004 3:02:26 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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