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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
And, the usual fare continues. I correctly quote Roman Catholic beliefs in my post, whereas you just make up some contrived malarkey about Calvinism and claim that it's what Calvinists "ought" to believe -- even though we don't.

I'm merely trying to ascribe what seems like consistency to your beliefs. Don't you believe that God chooses some for salvation and not others? What have I said wrong?

The Bible does not expressly state that "all" who die in infancy are regenerated in the womb;

But you did, or at least you said that Calvin did. So there is some matter of surmising going on.

Fine. Correct my statement to read, "All infants conceived of Adam..." etc.

Good. But this kinda shoots through your blustering about Psalm 58:3. It must not teach that all infants are sinners, or that all are not. Some may be elected to have been regenerated in the womb.

SD

33 posted on 10/15/2004 7:55:06 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
I'm merely trying to ascribe what seems like consistency to your beliefs. Don't you believe that God chooses some for salvation and not others? What have I said wrong?

If God has elected unto salvation all those who die in infancy, is that Number Set not "some" of the whole Race of Mankind? Why, then, does it seem inconsistent to you that a Calvinist would believe as much?

But you did, or at least you said that Calvin did. So there is some matter of surmising going on.

Surmising from the available evidence, which is 100% in favor of the Calvinist hypothesis.

Fine. Correct my statement to read, "All infants conceived of Adam..." etc. ~~ Good. But this kinda shoots through your blustering about Psalm 58:3. It must not teach that all infants are sinners, or that all are not. Some may be elected to have been regenerated in the womb.

Yes, Soothing Dave. Those who are Regenerated in the Womb are not counted as judicially "wicked" in God's eyes, and so are not the subjects of Psalm 58:3.

However, as Regeneration happens only by the direct monergistic intervention of God, Psalm 58:3 remains an informative description of the normative state of fallen, unregenerate Man from Infancy on.

36 posted on 10/15/2004 8:17:12 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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