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You have no way of explaining these events because your theological perception is based upon a flawed premise as illustrated by your response.

The events you inquired about (what if Cornelius died before meeting with Peter) were hypothetical! They did not happen!

Explanations of events that did not happen are not explanations. I didn't offer explanations of why the bush didn't burn either, did I? Or why Lazarus didn't rise when Christ called him, did I? Is that how you form your doctrine? From the multitude of hypotheticals not recorded in scripture?

God obviously wanted Cornelius to meet with Peter and Cornelius did not die, did he? Cornelius was elect and ultimately saved, wasn't he? And he believed before being regenerated, didn't he?

And that, HarleyD, is your real complaint. That what did in fact happen is entirely consistent with what is in fact in scripture, as I have patiently explained, til now.

You're upset because I refuse to fabricate doctrine to support events that did not happen whereas that seems your primary approach, and then you get indignant when your fabrications and false premises are disproven.

And I said word-salad, not fruit salad. word-salad as in jumbled, disordered, without structure or logic.

Your views are not fruity (as in crazy or insane). They're just ill-considered and unsupported by scripture. But you already knew that or you wouldn't be standing scripture and English on their heads.

You'd simply quote the passages that show Cornelius being regenerated and sealed before he heard or believed.

But there aren't any, are there?

”Cornelius was elect and ultimately saved, wasn't he? And he believed before being regenerated, didn't he?”

”You'd simply quote the passages that show Cornelius being regenerated and sealed before he heard or believed.”

Act 11:15-17 "And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning. And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, 'John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.' "Therefore if God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us also after believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could stand in God's way?"

Cornelius received the Holy Spirit AFTER HE BELIEVED which was when PETER BEGAN SPEAKING TO HIM.

I’m saying Cornelius salvation experience shows: 1) he was a devout man; 2) an angel appeared to him and told him to send for Peter; 3) Peter hesitated to bring the message but came after being persuaded by God and men; 4) Peter preached to Cornelius; 5) Cornelius believed in the Lord Jesus; 6) the Holy Spirit fell upon Cornelius; 7) they were baptized.

You want to ignore steps 1-3 of the redemptive process. Step 1-We know Cornelius was devout doing good works but how is that possible since good works only come from God? Step 2-God’s angel was sent to Cornelius to illuminate what he must do. Step 3-God had to intervene to persuade Peter to preach the word of Christ

Of course my comments about Cornelius getting hit on the head are hypothetical not because Cornelius avoided walking under ladders but because God shrouded him in His protection until the logical redemptive process could be complete. This isn’t a timing issue with God. It is a logical redemptive process. You just don’t recognize steps 1-3 in this process and what exactly they mean since they all entail God's direct involvement in the redemptive process.