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To: Tantumergo; thePilgrim
"Arminianism must logically assert that every single infant, simpleton, and person who cannot "naturally" exercise faith be damned to hell." ~~ Not that I am an Arminian, but are you then suggesting that faith is not necessary for the salvation of such people?

No, the Calvinist simply maintains that the faith of infants is purely supernatural, purely monergistic.

John the Baptist was no more "naturally" capable of the exercise of faith than you would expect of any six-month-conceived (not even yet born) late-term fetus.

But, being monergistically and supernaturally filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother's womb, he kicked for joy in the presence of his unborn Savior.

Not being capable of making a verbal profession of the Faith which was supernaturally implanted within him, he exhibited his rudimentary Faith the only way he could. :-)

133 posted on 10/19/2004 6:07:29 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

"No, the Calvinist simply maintains that the faith of infants is purely supernatural, purely monergistic."

I see you getting sucked down very treacherous paths with this line of argument!

Are you then saying that every infant is born with supernatural faith? If so at what point do the great "lump of perdition" lose it?

"John the Baptist was no more "naturally" capable of the exercise of faith than you would expect of any six-month-conceived (not even yet born) late-term fetus."

Granted, but surely you are not suggesting that the Baptist represented the norm, are you?

"Not being capable of making a verbal profession of the Faith which was supernaturally implanted within him, he exhibited his rudimentary Faith the only way he could. :-)"

I wondered why those chaismatics did those things....! ;)


138 posted on 10/19/2004 8:05:39 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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