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To: altura
No offense to the cloistered nuns who have cut their hair in accordance with their vows.

That was a shorthand reference to the radical lesbian-feminist cadre who are trying to bring female priests into the Catholic church. No thanks - been there, done that with the Episcopalians.

As a young college grad, I was all in favor of "priestesses" in the ECUSA - but personal experience changed my mind. Our former ECUSA parish was a "training parish" where young ordinands did a year or two of service at the largest parish in the diocese before striking out on their own as rectors or assistant rectors in smaller churches. So I saw every woman ordained in the Diocese of Atlanta over a period of about 20 years. With a single exception, none of them were qualified - most couldn't preach, couldn't counsel, and couldn't perform their priestly functions properly. Many were neurotics looking for self-therapy, many were radical feminists who didn't have a "call" except to spread their political agenda, one was an actual lesbian living with another woman (at least they fired her, but times have changed, they probably wouldn't fire her now). The only one who was a decent pastor is 100 percent behind the homosexual "bishop" - no doubt influenced or browbeaten by her more radical sisters.

I feel very strongly about this - and a couple of well-meaning Catholic laymen and women in our new parish who were thinking that maybe ordaining women wouldn't be such a bad idea got an earful!

17 posted on 10/12/2004 8:58:42 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
As a young college grad, I was all in favor of "priestesses" in the ECUSA - but personal experience changed my mind.

Isn't this precisely why the ECUSA and other mainline denoms are in such bad shape -- "personal experience" and personal opinion rules the day. No objective standards outside the hierarchy.

21 posted on 10/13/2004 7:17:15 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: AnAmericanMother

The Dallas Diocese has some exceptional woman priests. We have had the opposite experience. The only bad experiences I've had are with male priests....so far.


22 posted on 10/13/2004 7:37:35 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well, I can't totally agree with you.

I'm in the Episcopal Church, although a conservative. I've seen many years of the evolution of women priests.

The first wave consisted mostly of the sort of women you mention--they were more political than religious and very liberal.

We recently spent a year with a woman interim priest. She was wonderful. Then (to my admitted dismay) the vestry called another woman to be our rector.

She is the best preacher we have had in 30 years, very spiritual and wonderful in all ways.

On her first Sunday I was sitting sullen in my pew (I'd wanted a good looking man - ha -

When she walked down the aisle in procession, I had a road to damascus experience...it was like she had an aura. I felt right about her, and I've had no reason to change my mind.

There is nothing inherently wrong with being a woman, or a woman priest. It depends on the person.


23 posted on 10/13/2004 8:57:28 AM PDT by altura (Kerry & Edwards make me long for the old Clinton-Gore days.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; evanglican

Can't remember the name of the church my sister attends in Atlanta, but when speaking with her several weeks ago, she said the general concensus in the area was to live and let live and that we shouldn't be judging this man's life style.

I raised sand against doing away with the 1928 Prayerbook and other issues in the Church, I've seen my brother leave because of the attitude of the Episcopal priest in Ft Lauderdale, I don't like the changes that I have seen...

GOD must be crying "my children, my children, why hast thou forsaken me and my teachings".


28 posted on 10/14/2004 12:10:00 AM PDT by dixie sass (Texas - South Carolina on Steroids)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You go girl.
:-D

Sorry I just couldn't help myself. It seems so perfect for the moment.


30 posted on 10/14/2004 1:18:08 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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