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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Well, to start with, its meaning is noted in my bible, aside from that, it has been infallibly defined numerous times - the Council of Trent taught: CANON II.-If any one saith, that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and, on that account, wrests, to some sort of metaphor, those words of our Lord Jesus Christ; Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost; let him be anathema.

Again, Trent teaches us: CANON V.-If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation; let him be anathema.

74 posted on 10/11/2004 7:49:43 PM PDT by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: Stubborn

IOW's you can't/won't read this for your self and question WHY the mention of water here means baptism. Baptism is never mentioned in the conversation with Nicodemus. The verse and after this verse that mentions water, speaks of the natural birth and the spiritural birth, no mention that baptism is being discussed, but that means nothing to you?

Becky


83 posted on 10/12/2004 5:35:24 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (I have a plan......vote for Bush:)
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