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To: sinkspur

But Pius XII didn't change the Ordinary of the Mass or the Canon. Anyway, what was wrong with keeping the Mass the same? If it aint broke why fix it?

Point 1: What was the reason to call Vatican II? The other councils had been called during or as a result of heresies, anti-clericalism, etc... (Trent, Vatican I, Constance)? And from what I have heard, it is only a pastoral council.

Point 2: I feel that the current church comes across as being too "tolerant" and not being proud of being Catholic. anybody have an opinion on the subject?


37 posted on 10/03/2004 4:38:24 PM PDT by CouncilofTrent
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To: CouncilofTrent
What was the reason to call Vatican II?

John XXIII wanted to "update" the Church's response to the world. That included the liturgy.

Hey, look. I'm for granting those who want the Tridentine Mass a wide availablity of it so that they can worship as they choose.

But in no sense do I desire a return to the Mass of Pius V. And I would never attend a Tridentine Mass unless that was all that was available.

38 posted on 10/03/2004 4:55:47 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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