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To: AskStPhilomena
Why then lay all the blame on Jean Jadot?

Because everyone on this thread is aware that Paul VI gave the Church most of the rogues that high-jacked us. There is no reason to go over that yet again.

This thread is beyond that and looking for other common threads that exist Sun-tsu says it is of utmost importance to know your enemy. That is what we are working on.

39 posted on 09/25/2004 11:50:43 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity
"This thread is beyond that and looking for other common threads that exist Sun-tsu says it is of utmost importance to know your enemy. That is what we are working on."

I'm not disputing what you have to say, but to me the prime importance is what to do now that we have them.

It's true, I always thought Cardinal Bernardin was the king maker, but I suppose the Papal Nuncio would make a good partner, and I think that'show it really went. Bernardin proposed, and the nuncio rubber stamped it. But even knowing that does us no good. Te point is, they are here, and we must deal with them.

40 posted on 09/25/2004 1:10:48 PM PDT by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: saradippity; AskStPhilomena; Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; ...
Because everyone on this thread is aware that Paul VI gave the Church most of the rogues that high-jacked us.

I beg to differ with you. From various sources:

"Cardinal Roger Michael Mahony was appointed Archbishop of Los Angeles by Pope John Paul II on July 16, 1985 He was installed as the fourth Archbishop of Los Angeles on September 5, 1985. Pope John Paul II created him a cardinal on June 28, 1991."

"Following the death of John Cardinal Cody of Chicago, Pope John Paul II appointed the promising Archbishop Bernardin to perhaps the preeminent See in the United States – the Archdiocese of Chicago. On August 25, 1982, Bernardin was installed as the Archbishop of Chicago by the Apostolic Delegate, the Most Reverend Pio Laghi."

"Pope John Paul made him ((Bernard Law) archbishop of Boston in January 1984 and the following year made him a cardinal."

"In March of 1981 Pope John Paul II made him a Prelate of Honor. on November 19, 1981 Pope John Paul II appointed Msgr. O'Brien the third Bishop of Phoenix. He was consecrated at St. Peter's Basilica in Rome by Pope John Paul II on January 6th and installed in Phoenix on January 18, 1982."

"Cardinal Walter Kasper was born in Heidenheim-Brenz, Germany, in 1933 and was ordained in 1957. An accomplished theologian and author of many books and articles, Kasper studied at the University of Tübingen where he later became professor of dogmatic theology. He taught at the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C., in 1983. In 1987 he was ordained bishop of Rottenberg-Stuttgart, Germany."

"Father Cawcutt (of Capetown, South Africa) was created a bishop in 1992."

"In 1981 Bishop Ryan was named by Pope John Paul II titular bishop of Surista and auxiliary to the Most Reverend Joseph L. Imesch, Bishop of Joliet, and was ordained bishop by Bishop Imesch, September 30, 1981.

In 1983 Bishop Ryan was appointed by Pope John Paul II seventh Bishop of the See of Springfield in Illinois, succeeding Bishop Joseph A. McNicholas, deceased, and was installed as diocesan bishop in the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, Springfield, January 18, 1984."

42 posted on 09/25/2004 3:35:33 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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