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To: NYer
Thanks NY'er. Pray that the Pope can navigate the Barque through these trecherous waters. We are surrounded by the enemy. On land and sea we see armies or navies of homosexuals,bolshevics,liberals,marxists,anglo/american establihment elitists,socialists,progressives,modernists, dissenters.Some open and others closeted and "sleeping" until they are set to go off.

While we look at them all as the enemy,it is not quite so simple. The only thing the two sides (within the Church) have in common is that they do not believe in a transcendent,Triune God.The fact that the ring leaders of both sides use the same type of siscreant characters for their troops to fight their battles has made the identification of the enemy almost impossible up until very recently.

Because so many people are apt to believe that the enemy of my enemy is my friend has caused so many of us to feel betrayed. If we had been looking for two separate groups of enemies we might have trusted less and been disappointed less often. I am sure the poor Pope fell into this same type of trap more than once or twice. He needs so many prayers.

32 posted on 09/24/2004 2:33:46 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity

Good analysis!


33 posted on 09/24/2004 2:37:11 PM PDT by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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To: saradippity; thor76; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; sandyeggo; Salvation
Pray that the Pope can navigate the Barque through these trecherous waters.

I never cease to be amazed at how the Holy Spirit continues to guide the Catholic Church, despite the efforts of all those prelates and religious who believe their vision is more in keeping with the times. Can you imagine the frustration some of them must feel each time they see the pope off on a new journey or even saying the Mass! Imagine their consternation each time he elevates another group of conservative bishops to the rank of Cardinal ... lol! Where does JPII historically stand now, insofar as longest living pope? Is it #2?

I am sure the poor Pope fell into this same type of trap more than once or twice. He needs so many prayers.

Yes, 'Thor76' has commented on this many times. From Zenit News Agency:

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Date: 2004-09-21

Auckland Bishop Says Pope Presides From the Cross

AUCKLAND, New Zealand, SEPT. 20, 2004 (Zenit.org).- Though physically ailing, John Paul II might well be experiencing the greatest days of his pontificate, says a bishop who recently visited him.

In a statement in the wake of the New Zealand prelates' five-yearly visit to Rome, Bishop Patrick Dunn of Auckland said of the Pope: "Although his eyes are bright and piercing, he is indubitably frail, and has not walked in public for over a year. His condition makes it an effort for him to talk, and at times even to swallow."

"It seems that Pope John Paul II now presides over the universal Church from his place upon Christ's cross," said Bishop Dunn, who traveled with seven other prelates to Rome.

"We bishops in Rome had the sense that this outstanding Pope, now so manifestly crippled and paralyzed by illness, is perhaps at this time living out the greatest days of his extraordinary pontificate," the Auckland prelate added.

London-born Bishop Dunn, 54, recalled that the Pope asked the prelates to continue to proclaim "the splendor of Christ's truth."

"We bishops found the Pope's message immensely encouraging and helpful," he said. Bishop Dunn appealed to New Zealand's Catholics to "keep him in your prayers."

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The Holy Father is in my daily prayers, along with ALL the Patriarchs, Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Monsignors, and clergy that serve our Lord.

34 posted on 09/24/2004 3:41:35 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: saradippity; AskStPhilomena; Canticle_of_Deborah; Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; thor76
"If, however, you were to ask a conservative like Cardinal Edward Egan, archbishop of New York, he would say Jabot hurt the Church in the United States by picking the ‘‘very worst' bishops. This is because John Paul II had changed the criteria. It was part of his plan to bring a runaway, postconciliar Church back to its senses."

.....and what of Assisi, .....what of Fatima, .....what of the denial and suppression of Roman Catholic Dogma and Tradition through his complete support of V2 heresy, .....what of his embrace and indulgence of terrorist Arafat and the PLO, ......and of his silence toward blaspheming priests and bishops,.....what of his passive silence toward sodomites and baby killers who dare call themselves Roman Catholic and debase the Sacrament of Holy Communion every Sunday, .....what good came from his well publicized gathering in the Vatican of American imposters clothed as bishops? Was this ( the mere tip of his mountain of wrongs ) "....part of his plan to bring a runaway, postconciliar Church back to its senses"?

Just a minute!!! Which coven of warlocks prepped this smoke and mirrors spin on truth?

Soon we, the faithful of His Church, will be asked to sit by in silence, while the wicked choose one of their own to sit in Peter’s Chair. Will the faithful refuse to be silent? Will we stand, and demand in a single global voice for the election of a devoted and holy priest, as the Vicar of Christ on Earth???

A massive re-write of reality is now unfolding to sculpt a hollow monument where none should stand -- but for the barren grounds behind the walls of the Kremlin.

A global re-education is necessary to assure the numbing of the ignorant as they expectedly stare unknowingly at the coup de grace taking place within the walls of the Sistine Chapel.

Of course, speculation continues as to who might be the Cardinal in pectore Karol Wojtyla named in 2003.

Some believe Wojtyla appointed a member of the heretic Catholic association created by the Chinese communist government! These heretics and their ignorant flocks have declared their allegiance - not to the Holy See - but to the atheist communist Chinese.

All the more reason to watch and identify the ingress of the 123 electors who levitate into the conclave. Clearly, the presence of a heretic in those proceedings will void any decision made by the cardinals.

The communists are persecuting the true Roman Catholic Church in China. Should the Cardinal in pectore be a heretic, and stand to deceitfully declare his loyalty to the Holy See, it won’t be the first time a cardinal has lied to mask his evil intent. This will be a the last and final chapter crafted by Wojtyla alone.

Pope John Paul II, chose his name to honor his predecessor, John Paul I, who died just 33 days after being elected pope. John Paul I chose his name to honor predecessors Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI.......an unparalleled concurrence of action in papal history....and curiously.......all working from the same agenda. Now that’s determination - come hell or holy water (?).

Wojtyla, like the rest of us, was endowed by Our Father with free will, and he, and we, will account for those choices. I would guess a wrong is magnified by the amount of harm brought to His faithful, and the collateral harm brought to His Church. I can think of a number of men and women I’m glad I did not follow on my way to my accounting with Our Heavenly Father.

Our Lady of La Salette, pray for us. Saint Pius X, pray for us.

51 posted on 09/26/2004 9:47:04 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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