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A Religious Pilgrimage to England
myself | 9/22/2004 | Pyro7480

Posted on 09/22/2004 8:47:46 AM PDT by Pyro7480

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I can't end this without a parting shot of myself, with one leg on each side of the Prime Meridian, on the grounds of the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. ;-)

1 posted on 09/22/2004 8:47:46 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...

Catholic ping! (Warning: graphic-heavy thread about my trip to England)


2 posted on 09/22/2004 8:48:56 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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Beautiful!

What a lovely travelogue!

Can't wait to go back myself, maybe next summer. We will not miss Walsingham.

3 posted on 09/22/2004 8:57:52 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Pyro7480

Very well done - I enjoyed the pictures!


4 posted on 09/22/2004 8:58:51 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: Pyro7480

I can say that the most beautiful, reverent, awe-inspiring, prayerful masses have been at the Brompton Oratory. I went to a Palm Sunday Tridetine High Mass in the Main Church, and WOW!!!!!!!! The Chant, the Gospel, the procession were incredible. The English could improve on the whole "communion" thing, after the "Agnus Dei" a mad unorganized rush to the altar rail begins.


5 posted on 09/22/2004 9:02:28 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: NWU Army ROTC

I think we talked about that before, and came to the conclusion that it was a Solemn Novus Ordo Mass. They usually don't have Solemn High TLM's there.


6 posted on 09/22/2004 9:18:39 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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The English could improve on the whole "communion" thing, after the "Agnus Dei" a mad unorganized rush to the altar rail begins.

I believe you are mistaken about this point. In fact the more traditional practice of disorganized approach to the communion rail is much more highly preferable to the row-by-row organized communion queue, the reason being the incentive to commit sacrilegious communions. With the older practice of each person approaching the communion rail individually, the decision was left to each person's conscience. There was no embarrassment at staying behind in the pew. There was no implication of being in a state of mortal sin.

But now when an usher comes to each row and practically demands that each person get up and get in line for communion, one must make a spectacle of oneself in order to avoid committing a sacrilege by receiving communion in an unworthy state. I believe that uncountable millions of sacrileges against the Blessed Sacrament have been committed for this very reason, sacrileges that would have been avoided if the traditional practice had been maintained.

So their maintainence of a practice with such evident spiritual benefits is one more reason to congratulate the Brompton Oratory, rather than a cause for criticism.

7 posted on 09/22/2004 9:23:28 AM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian

I understand the principal of the matter, but everyone went up to receive it seemed, so the chaos appeared greater.


8 posted on 09/22/2004 9:26:17 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Pyro7480

Awesome!


9 posted on 09/22/2004 9:30:02 AM PDT by Stubborn (It is the Mass that matters)
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To: NWU Army ROTC; Maximilian

It was very nice to see the congregation at the Oratory for the TLM. It was one of the most diverse I had ever seen - young and old, of all ethnicities.


10 posted on 09/22/2004 9:30:05 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480
Great post.

IHS+

11 posted on 09/22/2004 10:12:53 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Is that a hybrid of the British Naval Jack and the Calvert coat of arms?


12 posted on 09/22/2004 10:20:15 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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http://flagspot.net/flags/us-mdcal.html
13 posted on 09/22/2004 10:47:31 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Beautiful pictures! Nice to see that a swatch of England has been left untouched by modern 'architecture'. Maybe Prince Charles is good for something after all. Gorgeous!
14 posted on 09/22/2004 10:54:44 AM PDT by Lilllabettt
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To: Pyro7480

I made the pilgrimage to Walsingham and highly recommend it to all Catholics. Of course there is not much left of the old abbey. Westminster Cathedral Choir also has a great CD of hymns to Our Lady of Walsingham.


15 posted on 09/22/2004 11:53:00 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

I think I saw that CD in one of the religious stores in Little Walsingham. I got a CD of the London Oratory choir, and it's great! I also heard them streamed online off BBC.


16 posted on 09/22/2004 11:56:37 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480

Beautiful! Beautiful! And your travelogue was very well done. I'm glad you had a good trip, my friend.

(The red head's wedding?)


17 posted on 09/22/2004 2:02:00 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Bigg Red

I wasn't actually there for her wedding, but I visited them and took them out to dinner.


18 posted on 09/22/2004 2:08:31 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Pyro7480; Tantumergo

I didn't see Tantumergo in your ping list, so just in case he isn't...


19 posted on 09/22/2004 2:14:53 PM PDT by ELS
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

In that coat of arms you posted, the three quarters looks like the Maryland flag. Is that the Calvert blazon?


20 posted on 09/22/2004 3:09:35 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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