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To: Vicomte13
Was she condemned by God to die anyway, WITHOUT sin? Was the wages of her sinlessness death anyway?

Even Christ Died yet he was sinless.

70 posted on 09/21/2004 11:12:08 AM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: frog_jerk_2004

Yes, and Job 1 tells us that Job was sinless, and Luke 1 tells us that the parents of John the Baptist were also sinless. They all died eventually (I think we can presume this, even though it does not say so in the Bible).

Theologically, the REASON they died natural deaths was the consequences of original sin, contracted from Adam.

After Adam and Eve, only Jesus and Mary were free of this original sin.

Jesus died sinless, yes, but only because he was killed.
Mary is said by (some) ancient Tradition to have died a natural death.
Obviously that's a different case.
Had Jesus NOT been killed, presumably he would have been immortal.
But why not Mary?

Two possible answers present themselves:
(1) Mary didn't actually die, but was assumed living into Heaven like Enoch and Elijah (and perhaps Moses) before her. (Jesus ascended living into Heaven, but that's a separate case.)
(2) Mary CHOSE to die to return to Her son in His Kingdom. So her death was NOT the result of being human or the effects of the sin of Adam, but a personal choice to fall asleep in God and go to her Son enthroned.

The latter answer does not contradict any ancient Tradition (the former does), and it may have to do as an answer, but I am QUITE uncomfortable deriving my own explanation. Surely there is a traditional answer?
Surely some reader of this board knows that answer?


95 posted on 09/21/2004 11:30:19 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: frog_jerk_2004

"Even Christ Died yet he was sinless"

He didn't commit any sins himself, but every sin ever committed in the past and every sin that ever will be committed was imputed to Him- "He became sin for us", "He bore our sins", etc


225 posted on 09/22/2004 9:42:15 AM PDT by armydoc
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