[JohnnyM]

"UNTIL doesn't necessarily imply anything"

It implies an event happening in the future. So if the Word says that Joseph kept Mary a virgin UNTIL she gave birth, that would imply that Mary lost her virginity sometime after the birth of Jesus. The Word of God does not use Words flippantly. For the Bible could have clearly said that Mary remained a virgin or that Joseph never "knew" her. Or a host of different things to that effect. But the Holy Spirit in His wisdom chose to use those words. Now could you show me Scripture where Mary was "Immaculately" conceived???

JM

[Lilllabettt]

You are reading the word "until" in your cultural way. To us, the word until implies a future event.

But the writers of the Testaments, Old and New, were Jews. They used the word "until" in their cultural way; in many cases to convey a sense of the eternal. So, within the Bible, you may find curious phrases like:

"Michal the daughter of Saul had no children untill the day of her death"(2 Sam. 6:23). She did not have any children AFTER hear death either, though that is what OUR understanding of the word 'until' implies. When the Jews read the word "until", they knew the authors meant "ever".