[Claud]

The Catholic equates Mary as the new Eve. Eve was the bride of Adam. Therefore, Mary the new Eve, must be the bride of Jesus Christ, the new Adam. That is where their typology leads them.

Typological formulations are not exact. They are suggestive.

In any case, if we're in agreement about the Church being the bride of Christ, then I wonder which marriage is it, in which the bride *does not take the mother of her husband as her own*. The last words of Christ on the cross to St. John--significantly not named but called "the disciple whom Jesus loved"—give Mary to that disciple.

If Jesus loves you, and I submit that He does, then it is to you that He gives His own mother. If you can't accept the more "advanced" Marian doctrines, that's one thing, but to refuse even the concept of Mary as your mother-in-law is to do violence to the very idea of the Bride of Christ.

[JohnnyM]

Mary is not my mother, nor my mother in law. She is but a faithful servant. I do not pray to her. I do not worship her. I do not give her any of the Glory that is due Christ.

The fact that you use Eve to support your claim on Mary and reject the most basic of typology that cannot possibly pertain to Mary is willfull blindness to the Truth.

Eve came forth from Adam while God put him to sleep. She was the helpmeet and bride of Adam. All these things the Church fulfills in its entirety with regard to Christ, and none of them is fulfilled in Mary.

JM

[PetroniusMaximus]

***then it is to you that He gives His own mother.***

And I fully accept Mary in her Biblical role.

But it is a poor marraige that requires the mother-in-law as a mediator between the bride and the groom!



(Even John the Baptist had the sense to back off once he got the bride and groom together...

"The one who has the bride is the bridegroom. The friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly at the bridegroom's voice. Therefore this joy of mine is now complete. He must increase, but I must decrease." - John 3)