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To: Tantumergo

Was Mary sinless? Here is a scripture below that might suggest otherwise:
Luke 2:46-49
46 Then, after three days they found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. 47 And all who heard Him were amazed at His understanding and His answers. 48 When they saw Him, they were astonished; and His mother said to Him, "Son, why have You treated us this way? Behold, Your father and I have been anxiously looking for You." 49 And He said to them, "Why is it that you were looking for Me? Did you not know that I had to be in My Father's house?"

The way I read this scripture, Mary is either offended by Christ or reprimanding Him for not telling His parents where He was going. So either Christ sinned (which we know is impossible) by not telling His parents, or Mary wrongly scolded her son (V.48).

How do you read and interpret these verses? Do you agree with my assertion?


201 posted on 09/22/2004 6:13:33 AM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: visually_augmented; Kolokotronis; Tantumergo
Was Mary sinless? Here is a scripture below that might suggest otherwise: Luke 2:46-49

The incident in John 2:1 has also been quoted at times as Scriptural evidence that Mary was indeed human. Orthodox Christianity holds that she was cleansed of all sin at the Annunciation (her acceptance) and at her death.

If, as a human, she could be sinless all on her own, she would not be truly human. If she were made sinless from the moment of her conception, her holiness wouldn't be the supreme example of her humanity.

210 posted on 09/22/2004 8:26:01 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: visually_augmented

I read a mother scared to death that something happened to her child when he disappeared, and scolding him for running off without telling her. I see no sin in that at all. Jesus was her boy, as young and defenseless and dependent as any other boy. It was her job as a mother to look after him and take care of him, like any other mother. And like any other mother, if her boy runs off somewhere for days, she was likely to be panicked, and likely to tell him to never, ever do that to her again.
Where is there anything approaching sin in that?
Does a mother sin when she tells her child not to run away?


219 posted on 09/22/2004 9:08:43 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: visually_augmented

"48 When they saw Him, they were astonished; and His mother said to Him, "Son, why have You treated us this way? Behold, Your father and I have been anxiously looking for You."

How do you read and interpret these verses? Do you agree with my assertion?"

This is not sin - this is ignorance born of the finite human condition. Not to know something which was beyond her ability to know, can hardly be described as sinful.

We do not pretend that she was anything other than fully human.


231 posted on 09/22/2004 9:56:18 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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