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To: Tantumergo
Although this doctrine is not explicitly stated in Scripture

Then why don't we just let the silence of the scripture remain silent. What scripture does tell us about Mary should be enough for us to highly respect her as the type of woman that God would use to bring his Son into the world. Since that is all that God has told us, shouldn't that be enough.

Deuteronomy 29:29  The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

18 posted on 09/21/2004 8:51:53 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular.)
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To: asformeandformyhouse

"Then why don't we just let the silence of the scripture remain silent...Since that is all that God has told us, shouldn't that be enough."

Because:

a) Scripture isn't silent - in its typology it is deafeningly loud

b) Even if it were totally silent, that would not affect the veracity of the Tradition for:

"There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written." Jn 21,25.

c) This is what Christians have always and everywhere believed. Therefore, any contradictory view is novel doctrine and falls under anathema.

d) Christ's Church has never subscribed to a doctrine of Scripture alone, but has always held fast to what has been handed on by both Scripture and Tradition. The Church's prayer and divine liturgy existed before any of the New Testament was committed to writing, for example.

e) Scripture is completely silent about the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. and yet you would consider me mad if I suggested we therefore believe it to be still standing, as it is a fact that the temple was so destroyed. The Church's doctrine about the Mother of God is similarly factual and therefore cannot be denied without denying Truth Himself.


30 posted on 09/21/2004 9:32:37 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: asformeandformyhouse

I agree.

All we know from the scripture is that Joeseph and Mary did not have sex until after Jesus was born. There is nothing "unchaste" or defiling about sex within marriage. The explanation in this article is fairly complicated and does require special knowledge not only about the birth of Mary - which is never addressed in the Bible - but also about the "brothers and sisters" of Jesus in the New Testament.

We Cnristians must believe that Mary was a virgin at the birth of Jesus. The focus is on the miraculous birth of Jesus, that His Father is God and He is the only sinless human being. The facts of the marriage of Joseph and Mary after the birth of Jesus should be a "disputable matter," not a divisive issue.


247 posted on 09/22/2004 10:55:48 AM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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