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To: FrankWild; thor76
This is a conservative site, right? I don't get it. A pack of liberal bishops in the 1960s hijacked the Church, Protestantized the Mass, knowingly became a hive for predatory homosexuals, mismanaged the Church in a way to bring it massive ridicule, and generally discredited the Church as an institution before billions of people throughout the world, and many Free Republic posters virulently defend the sordid legacy of Vatican Two

Bears repeating.

How does the religious/philiosphical equivalent of Woodstock get virulently defended on a website purportedly intended to re-elect George Bush?

Vatican II = John Kerry = liberalism

Can the supporters of Vatican II cite 1 conservative effect of its promulgation? John Kerry, Daniel Berrigan, Ted Kennedy, Frances Kissling, Andrew Greely and Roger Mahoney all love Vatican II

Conservatives, neo-conservatives, rightists and Bush supporters would be correct to be wary of these neo-Catholics. They are pulling the lever for Kerry in overwhelming numbers and they are burrowed deep inside the Religion forum of Free-Republic.

342 posted on 09/22/2004 10:51:06 AM PDT by Pio (There is no Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: Pio; pascendi; Maeve; pro Athanasius; Canticle_of_Deborah; Robert Drobot

. A pack of liberal bishops in the 1960s hijacked the Church, Protestantized the Mass, knowingly became a hive for predatory homosexuals, mismanaged the Church in a way to bring it massive ridicule, and generally discredited the Church as an institution before billions of people throughout the world, and many virulently defend the sordid legacy of Vatican Two

Spiritual blindness is a major causative factor here. Because of the tremendous influence of the Devil in these times, men will easily see bad as good, black as white, and not know the difference.

On the Traditional & Conservative end of the spectrum we have folks hissing and spitting at each other over matters which, in some cases are so inconsequential as to be silly.
"Satan seeks to sieve you all like chaff", as he knows that if you are divided against yourself, you cannot fight what is really important.

On the Liberal end of the spectrum, we see people gleefully supporting all manner of liturgical and theological madness, which a generation or so ago would have earned one the brand of being a heretic. Here again, Satan seeks to blind and lead astray.

Political ramifications aside, all are affected by a form of spiritual blindness, and mental disorientation - to a greater or lesser personal extent.

The solution lies in prayer. Genuine prayer. Totally humble and submissive prayer, where the suppliant totally opens himself up to the grace and the will of God, and allows the Holy Spirit to work on and in him. The suppliant must be willing to be totally stripped of all - mind, memory, everything......like a junk car, and completely rebuilt from the ground up. Only then, can he see with the light of truth....only then can he see, with the gifts of KNowledge, Wisdom, and Understanding what is reality.

Christ had the power to make the blind see when he walked the earth. He still does. But like that blind man, he must fall at the feet of Christ, forsaking all else, risking all, and beg to be made whole.

Such restoration is given freely by God - but you must want it with all your heart and soul, for "it is awful to fall into the hands of a loving God".

If your mind and your soul were the subject of "This Old House".......Bob Vila ain't got nothing on God!


357 posted on 09/22/2004 1:11:29 PM PDT by thor76 (Vatican II is Grand Theft Ecclesiastical)
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