[Stubborn]

I don't try to have it both ways at all as I will only attend the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. I pray for JPII and the whole mess everyday, but folks who want to bash sspx simply hate what they stand for, namely, the Roman Catholic faith preserved and unchanged.

There is no sympathy for them because the sspx has thus far suceeded in preserving the faith that the novus ordo church has all but demolished.

As long as they preserve the faith and the Mass of the perennial magisterium rather than destroy it or change it, they have no fear of becoming the next "Old Catholic sect".

[sinkspur]

There is no sympathy for them because the sspx has thus far suceeded in preserving the faith that the novus ordo church has all but demolished.

This is the totally brain-dead attitude of the SSPX. And it has rubbed off on many traditionalists inside the Church as well. They go in to chancery offices with belligerence and anger, then scratch their heads, wondering why the bishop won't yield to their demands.

As long as they preserve the faith and the Mass of the perennial magisterium rather than destroy it or change it, they have no fear of becoming the next "Old Catholic sect".

You will become the next Old Catholic sect and fade into oblivion. You are not united to the Church through Peter, thus you are outside the Church. Period.

[ninenot]

folks who want to bash sspx simply hate what they stand for, namely, the Roman Catholic faith preserved and unchanged.

I disagree.

I share your thoughts in general terms--that the NO was ill-concieved, implemented without sufficient pastoral judgment, and has subsequently been horribly abused by variously-agenda'ed groups of termites, snakes, pederasts, anti-nomians, and other scum-sucking detritus. Clear?

However, your statement above presumes that SSPX has valid arguments on several fronts, which is inaccurate. They do not, as has been shown here (and in far more pacific journals) countless times.

Thus, "bashers" are, in fact, defenders of the Church, contra your assertion.