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To: pascendi
First you write this:

As for the last quote provided regarding indifferentism: the pope does very well here upholding the one path to salvation, which is the Catholic Church. In fact, I could provide for you, if you wish, quotes which are even more precise and pointed than this, coming from Pope John Paul II.

Then you write this:

As indifferentism and syncretism are pandemic in our times, and given that you have claimed that he has repeatedly spoken against these things: I ask you, marshmallow, in the name of Dialogue and Respect, to provide for me more quotes or example, that I may come to know the truth which you possess.

In the first papragraph you say that you can provide more quotes, if required. In the second you ask me to provide them.

Which leads me ask; If you already have them, why do you want me to post them? You've admitted that many more exist and offered to post them. Fine by me.

I think those which I quoted are rather good and make my point effectively. They are clear and unambiguous and leave little room for wiggle.

Which is why the best response you can muster is to cry "not enough, not enough". A bit like when your kid brother bets you that you can't hop on one foot for 5 minutes. When you do it, he can't bring himself to say "good job", so he says "OK, bet you can't do it again."

45 posted on 09/10/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
"If you already have them, why do you want me to post them?"

Because you made this claim: "the Pope has repeatedly spoken out against syncretism" and I would like to see you support it. I say he hasn't. All I have is one or two quotes. If you have trouble finding yours, just ask and I'll be happy to lend you the quotes I already have. Point being, it's your claim... so, you support it.

A bit like when your kid brother bets you that you can't hop on one foot for 5 minutes. When you do it, he can't bring himself to say "good job", so he says "OK, bet you can't do it again."

Huh? Nah, it's not like that at all. It's more like this: That above quote from Pope Saint Pius X blows away the very thing that Pope John Paul II was saying to Cardinal Kasper. It's really just that simple. Read it.

Cardinal Kasper, just as a reminder, is the one who claimed that the Jewish people are already in possession of a valid covenant, and have no need of entering the Catholic Church. Just thought I would throw that in as an extra reference point in the interest of theological spatial relations.

Cardinal Kasper:

"This does not mean that Jews in order to be saved have to become Christians; if they follow their own conscience and believe in God's promises as they understand them in their religious tradition, they are in line with God's plan, which for us comes to historical completion in Jesus Christ."
46 posted on 09/10/2004 2:25:57 PM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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