[AskStPhilomena]

Read and weep....
"Religions and Cultures: the Courage to Forge a New Spiritual Humanism"

"For me it is a joy and a consolation to see that the pilgrimage of peace I started in Assisi in October 1986 did not stop. On the contrary, it continues to grow in terms of participants and fruits."

"And religions have a specific task in reminding every man and every woman of this awareness, a gift of God and, at the same time, the fruit of centuries of historical experience. This is what I called "the spirit of Assisi." Our world needs this spirit. It needs convictions and behaviors that secure a solid peace to flow from this spirit, to reinforce international institutions and promote reconciliation. The "spirit of Assisi" urges religions to give their contribution to the new humanism today's world needs so badly."

[AAABEST]

For me it is a joy and a consolation to see that the pilgrimage of peace I started in Assisi in October 1986 did not stop...I also thank St. Egidio Community for having grasped the importance of what I called "the spirit of Assisi"...The "spirit of Assisi" urges religions to give their contribution to the new humanism... I was convinced of this in October 1986 in Assisi, when I asked people belonging to all religions to gather side by side to invoke God for peace.

I don't know what to say. Except that this incredible nonsense is a bunch of scandalous, humanist liberal garbage.

[Fifthmark]

At the Meeting there are people capable of staying next to one another, who discover how friendship enables them to perceive the extreme dignity of every man and every woman and the richness that is often rooted in diversity.

Oh, so now we have "extreme" dignity? This is sick.

[Grey Ghost II]

Had to stop reading when I came across the words dear Brother.

[marshmallow]

"Pope is an apostate" thread, du jour.

What is truly incredible is not the Pope's words but the complete inability of some to understand what he is saying and doing and the scorn, overwheening pride and uncharitablenes which characterizes their words.

Blessed are the peacemakers, indeed.

Had you people an ounce of humility and prudence you might care to contrast his method of reaching out to those not of the faith, with your own uninviting methods, as exhibited on this forum.

In-your-face shouting of the righteousness of your own position and the inevitability of damnation for all those who don't hold to it, attracts precisely nobody.

On the contrary, people find this habitual, daily, papal second guessing obnoxious.

Spare us the pretentious "Lord have mercies". The Pope will be just fine.

Here are your two new study words for the day : Respect and Dialogue.

They are not dirty words and they are very much part of evangelism.

[Mark in the Old South]

I guess I am looking for a silver lining but there is one line I agree with: "Every day, I invoke for them (Africa) peace from God, that peace that humankind is not capable of giving"

It is a pity the rest of the letter contradicts this singular sentence.

[pascendi]

Back to the beginning. Pope John Paul II said this:

To the Reverend Brother Cardinal Walter Kasper President of the Pontifical Council For Promoting Christian Unity

1. I am particularly glad, dear Brother, to give you the responsibility to convey my greetings and my sincere appreciation to all the Representatives of Churches, Ecclesial Communities and major world Religions who have gathered in Milan for this XVIII Meeting entitled "Religions and Cultures: the Courage to Forge a New Spiritual Humanism."

He continues from this point, and in a nutshell, he gives this endeavor his blessing, and claims it as his own, he claims it is the Spirit of Assisi, he says that he is with them in spirit. He calls it a new spiritual humanism. He says we need this.

Traditional Catholics object. Non-traditional Catholics counter-object, claiming that there's nothing in all this that is contrary to the Faith, that all is well. They say Trads are merely negative, lacking in virtue, and so on and so forth, etc.

Alright, now here again is the website for this supposedly harmless ecumenical get-together.

Browse it through. See that it is socialist, globalist, new age, and anything but Catholic. This isn't harmless. This is the Beast.

Look anywhere; it's all there, anywhere you look. There's too much poison in this site to even begin to catalogue; too much to comment on; too much to analize and to pit against the Catholicism of doctrine and tradition. Especially if no one wants to hear it.

But let no one deny it, what is against the Catholic Faith is all there. Look at the links page. For instance, look who they link to:

"Welcome The World Revolution is an idea for a new, global grassroots social movement for progressive social change. It aims to resolve in a definitive and comprehensive manner the major social problems of our world and our era. Major issue areas of the World Revolution include: peace, human rights, the environment, and world poverty."

How can anyone deny what is happening here? Is this not Socialism, and are not these people in league with Socialism? This isn't new age spirituality we see plastered all over this site from top to bottom? It is no longer possible to deny. Any Catholic who is not a traditional Catholic needs to become one immediately; they need to stop listening to the neopropaganda, they need their tradition, their doctrine before it's too late. The time for denial is over; we need the Blessed Mother to handle the details of how to handle the situation we now find ourselves in as Catholics.

[St.Chuck]

The fight against the death-makers doubtless requires firmness and resoluteness. At the same time, however, it is necessary to make every possible effort to eradicate the misery, despair, emptiness of heart and whatever favors this drift towards terror.

Don't you think the pope is spot on in this remark?

We must not let ourselves be overwhelmed by fear, which leads men and women to focus only on themselves and strengthens the selfishness entrenched in the hearts of individuals and groups.

Words we would do well to heed.

Peace never requires violence, it always calls for dialogue. Especially those who come from Countries whose soil is stained with blood know well that violence constantly generates violence. War throws open the doors to the abyss of evil. War makes anything possible, even what is totally irrational.

I think the pope demonstrates a command of the issues that confront humanity in these times. It's perplexing that some who claim to be sheep assigned to his pastoral care would find reason for disagreement.

[AlbionGirl]

"Humanism": the God worshippped is man. He couldn't have chosen a worse term if that was actually his goal.

Peace never requires violence, it always calls for dialogue.

Of course it always requires dialogue, duh! But it never requires violence? The Pope is living in a dream world where Pederasts are just people, but a physical struggle for Liberty is a denial of Christ. Corsi's words were poorly chosen, but I think his conclusion is correct.