"I say this evening, as your God, that on that date, as promised at Fatima, satan entered My Church upon earth. He brought with him his agents—and satan himself, the deceiver of all mankind, sat in on Vatican II and maneuvered all the outsiders to come in and distort My doctrines and distort the truth." - Jesus, June 18, 1986
"Sister Lucy is no longer a point of reference today since we have such a good one in the Second Vatican Council". —Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon José de Cruz Policarpo, October 12, 2003
Do you dis-agree with this?
I don't think any purpose is being served by speaking about "visions" that contradict the Teaching of the Church Jesus established to Teach in His name.
I agree with both. Jesus never appeared at Medjuorgje either.
Don't you understand? Medjugorje is not an approved apparition! It is an occasion to sucker gullible souls to make pilgrimages and spend money on trinkets that have no meaning.
You just as well believe that the Easter bunny is real.