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To: missyme; dangus; pascendi; sinkspur
LUCY COME FORWARD "I wish at this time, My children, to repeat again the need to write, to speak, to meet with the Holy Father in Rome, and plead with him to have Lucy come forward and tell the Third Secret word for word." - Our Lady, June 18, 1986

From Veronica Lueken the very condemned Bayside apparitions.

- "I wish at this time, My children, to repeat again the need to write, to speak, to meet with the Holy Father in Rome, and plead with him to have Lucy come forward and tell the Third Secret word for word, as I give to you each evening on My appearances upon the grounds of Bayside, and Flushing Meadows." - Our Lady, June 18, 1986

Bayside is false.:

DECLARATION CONCERNING THE "BAYSIDE MOVEMENT"
November 4, 1986 Letter of Bishop John Mugavero of Brooklyn

In recent months, doubts have been raised by members of the so-called "Bayside Movement" concerning the official position of the Diocese of Brooklyn on the alleged "apparitions" of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and other heavenly beings, to a woman by the name of Vernica Lueken.

...

Therefore, in consultation with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, I hereby declare that:

1. No credibility can be given to the so-called "apparitions" reported by Veronica Lueken and her followers.

2. The "messages" and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, undermine the legitimate authority of bishops and councils and instill doubts in the minds of the faithful, for example, by claiming that, for years, an "imposter (sic) Pope" governed the Catholic Church in place of Paul VI.

3. Those who persistently maintain that "no ecclesiastical permission is required for the publication or dissemination" of information concerning "revelations, visions or miracles," are erroneously interpreting the directives of the Holy See when they attempt to justify the publication of the propaganda literature on the "Bayside Messages."


106 posted on 08/29/2004 11:45:22 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick

BAYSIDE?! AS IN BAYSIDE, QUEENS?! Bwa-HA-HA-ha. Our Lady of the 'Hood?


109 posted on 08/29/2004 11:50:15 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Dominick

Ok, Now that I've wiped the laughter from my eyes... And I probably shouldn't have mocked "Our Lady of the Hood," since even in Jesus' time they asked, "Can anything good come from Galilee?" It would be just like Our Lady to appear in such a humble setting.

Also, it is certainly true that bishops have suppressed and condemned what were later recognized as authentic apparitions. But in those cases, the witnesses acted in humble submission to the "duly-annointed," rather than in open rebellion. It was the grace of God which led them to overcome the obstacles placed in their way, not that of rebellion.


113 posted on 08/29/2004 11:57:28 AM PDT by dangus
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