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To: Tantumergo; NWU Army ROTC
I suggest a "playing it dumb" approach might be helpful:

"Father, someone from CCC was telling me the other day that Catholics don't believe in transubstantiation any more but we believe in consubstantiation now. Is that right? What exactly is consubstantiation?"

An excellent suggestion, but NWU better have oxygen handy, because he may not like the answer he gets.

I am absolutely convinced that at least one active pastor up here simply does not believe in transubstantiation.

51 posted on 08/16/2004 5:52:57 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot; seamole

"I am absolutely convinced that at least one active pastor up here simply does not believe in transubstantiation."

I can quite easily believe it.

Just in passing, my V.G. happened to mention to me that he thought it interesting that in my conversion from Presbyterianism, I had moved to a belief in transubstantiation, whereas he had "now accepted 'consubstantiation'".

Needless to say he seldom genuflects, and he only tolerates occasional adoration in order to keep his "coterie of bread-worshippers and young fogies happy".

God alone knows what this man's true intentions are when he says Mass - and publicly at least he uses the ICEL words of consecration.

However, after what he said to me, I would not be happy thinking that my obligation had definitely been fulfilled or my communion had definitely been valid, if I had been to one of his Masses.

If I have to preach at his parish on a Sunday, I will always go to another Mass as well.


61 posted on 08/16/2004 6:35:11 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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