[GirlShortstop]

Idolatry comes in many forms. Sounds like you're worshiping bread and wine, and thereby missing the real point.

There's a problem as I see it with your position on this thread:  personal attacks on individual's Faith.  How about you tell us please, your understanding of WHY the Mystical Body of Christ, the Holy Catholic Church has specified what valid matter is, and further to it, why you are adamantly against it.

Thank you.

"There are not 100 people who hate the Catholic Church; But there are millions who hate what they believe the Catholic Church to be."  Archbishop Fulton Sheen

[r9etb]

There's a problem as I see it with your position on this thread: personal attacks on individual's Faith.

I'm not attacking the person's faith. I am pointing out the logical consequences of the person's statements. Big difference.

How about you tell us please, your understanding of WHY the Mystical Body of Christ, the Holy Catholic Church has specified what valid matter is

Bp. Sklba states the issue nicely. The rubrics are there, and they are useful, because they ensure the sort of order that is necessary to the proper functioning of a church. It is, however, possible to become so wrapped up in church rules, that one forgets what the church is supposed to be about. This was the sin of the pharisees, and it was the point that Jesus was continually making when he had dealings with them.

and further to it, why you are adamantly against it.

I'm not.