LOL! I must confess that I find your subtleties superb!
Des, does TT know your special recipe [and the "secret" in the choice of bread]?
Later!
Posted on 08/15/2004 11:42:32 AM PDT by ninenot
But you don't know what I have under my hat.
us "lowly" laity have rights under canon law too. The right to receive the sacraments per the correct authorized liturgy of the Church is chief among them.
Ah, very true. But to your average modernist Bishop you have no rights....except to "Pay, pay, and get out of the way".
This is where I get in trouble and have to go to confession ....
Your average modernist Bishop tends to have very grey hair nowadays. They'll eventually be replaced.
ROFL
How would you describe your friend the Canon lawyer's C/catholicism? That is,traditional,orthodox,conservative,neo-conservative or progressive/modernist. I have a theory which I put forward about three months ago and was chastised for but I have spent time rethinking. Whereas,originally I thought I was right,I am now convinced that I was right. Anyway I got so much flak about it that I am going to wait to jump in again. But I am very interested in the degree of your friend's C/atholic commitment. Thanks.
Guilty conscience? ;)
I don't know. It might be better that way. You know, mystery of the universe and all that.
For eating. Very simple and very tasty. Although I recommend eating them with tea. They don't taste right with grain alcohol.
Maybe.
Without being silly about it, an intelligent Catholic may certainly question 'validity' if the priest acts like a clown.
I cannot understand how your friend got onto the track of belive/disbelieve/Luther.
600? Nope. 200. Remember, only 40% of nominal Catholics actually show up at Mass.
Call the Chancery, find the letter-screener, and ask, Sink. Let's get some hard numbers out here.
Heee Heee Heeeee haw har.
A BioMed Eng'r would be a MARVELOUS addition to the staff of TTGC--particularly combined with the Mechanical Engineering efforts of Arrogant Bustard, who is now rehabilitating the designs of various machines (I don't have to draw pictures, do I) for use of the Club in its upcoming activity.
Roll call will be underway shortly. I think you would be the Minister of Chemistry (in at least one sense of the term 'chemistry...')
Off we go!
Our Lord did not say (and I do challenge you to prove otherwise) the following:
The Eucharist must be practiced with a thin, tasteless wafer constructed entirely of wheat (neither barley, nor rye, nor spelt will do, and corn is right out), and that thin tasteless wafer must be emblazoned with a cross, and only that will do. Little girls who cannot tolerate wheat are ineligible for Communion.
That, my friend, is not something Jesus would have said. Rather, the insistence on wheat it is simply a position being taken by some, and defended as if it were Holy Writ. But it's not.
What we do know is the following:
On the night he was betrayed he took bread, said the blessing, broke the bread, and gave it to his friends, and said, "Take, eat: This is my Body, which is given for you. Do this for the remembrance of me."After supper, he took the cup of wine, gave thanks, and said, "Drink this, all of you: This is my Blood of the new Covenant, which is shed for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. Whenever you drink it, do this for the remembrance of me."
You may recall that He said this: "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." (Mark 2:27). In the same way, the Eucharist was made for man, not man for the Eucharist. If you're all wound up about some church-standard wafer, then I'd say you're missing the point.
How do you know what kind of grain he used? And if I drink the wrong kind of wine, am I going to hell?
Idolatry comes in many forms. Sounds like you're worshiping bread and wine, and thereby missing the real point.
I'm not attacking the person's faith. I am pointing out the logical consequences of the person's statements. Big difference.
How about you tell us please, your understanding of WHY the Mystical Body of Christ, the Holy Catholic Church has specified what valid matter is
Bp. Sklba states the issue nicely. The rubrics are there, and they are useful, because they ensure the sort of order that is necessary to the proper functioning of a church. It is, however, possible to become so wrapped up in church rules, that one forgets what the church is supposed to be about. This was the sin of the pharisees, and it was the point that Jesus was continually making when he had dealings with them.
and further to it, why you are adamantly against it.
I'm not.
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