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To: Destro

Oh, silly me, I didn't see your last post. Since you side with the liberal revolution in Hungary I guess it comes naturally to oppose a conservative like Emp. Charles. Yet, here again, you have your facts wrong.

The liberal revolt in Hungary was largely an attempt by the leftists to massacre all the minorities in Hungary while the Austrian army was busy fighting back the massive liberal revolts that erupted across Europe in 1848. However, unlike today, the conservatives stuck together and Tsar Nicholas I of Russia, the "gendarmerie of Europe" came to the aid of Austria in crushing the uprising.

The Ausgleich was done, rightly so, after all of the liberal opposition had been wiped out. The new Emperor Francis Joseph intended it to be a gesture of humanity and reconciliation, and to avoid future problems by allowing the Hungarians their pride after being so soundly thrashed.

Not that I expect you to approve of any of this as you seem to be taking the side of the liberals in every showdown with the old, conservative Europe.


58 posted on 08/20/2004 7:21:11 PM PDT by Guelph4ever (“Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam et tibi dabo claves regni coelorum”)
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To: Guelph4ever
I did not side with teh Hungarians - just sjhowing that the love you imagine between Hungarians and Austrians did not exist as you presented it - and excuse me - I am an American - in an America that fought a long bloody war to overturn a Christian monarch in favor of liberal (classic meaning of the word) republic.

The cause of WW1 was the mistaken view of empires of that time that they had to expand or die. Austrians being blocked by Prussia in the north and Italy in the south decided to pick on the corpse of the Ottoman Empire - yet it ran into the force empires have not had to deal with before - nationalisim. The natives of the Balkans did not want to be ruled by the Austrians or the Turks or the Russians - but to rule themselves.

59 posted on 08/20/2004 7:30:45 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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