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To: AskStPhilomena
This must be really bad news for you guys. The Novus Ordo church is supposed to be dying, right? Yet here are these younger priests who are spurning the errors of the modernists, embrace all the teachings of the Catholic Church and love the Pope.

SSPX has convinced itself that it and only it, is the real keeper of orthodoxy and that one day everyone will come running to it when the Novus Ordo falls in a heap of ashes. I doubt it.

God is calling fine young men to the priesthood in the Catholic Church. Lots of them.

57 posted on 08/06/2004 9:48:08 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

"SSPX has convinced itself that it and only it, is the real keeper of orthodoxy"

The SSPX is only one branch of traditional Catholicism. Thanks to the manure provided by modernists the whole traditionalist tree is flourishing.


"God is calling fine young men to the priesthood in the Catholic Church."

Many are choosing traditionalist orders - rather than running the gauntlet at sodomite-run seminaries.


60 posted on 08/07/2004 4:11:20 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: marshmallow; american colleen; ultima ratio
SSPX has convinced itself that it and only it, is the real keeper of orthodoxy and that one day everyone will come running to it when the Novus Ordo falls in a heap of ashes. I doubt it.

TRADITIONALISTS HAVE GONE TOO FAR

When someone like Monsignor Marceau preaches that if there is no Tridentine Mass available, the Sunday obligation to attend Mass ceases, the Traditionalists have gone too far. When Archbishop Lefebvre refused to admit that the New Mass is a legitimate Mass, he went too far.

None of the early Church Liturgies were Tridentine or even close.

They had different Liturgies in Jerusalem, Alexandria, Rome, Persia, and Edessa. The Liturgy of James the Apostle (Jerusalem) has a different Canon than the Liturgy of Mark, Clement, Chrysostom, Basil, and the two of Peter.

The truth is that many of the Traditionalist Masses are illegal.

Oh! Yes, they are licit, and it is the real Body of Christ. Even in the Greek Orthodox and Old Roman Catholic Churches the consecration is real because, unlike Protestants, they have Apostolic Succession. But those saying and those attending these Masses by choice are committing Sins of disobedience against the Pope, the doctrine of the Church, and the first councils of the Church, especially of Nice.

(De fide) Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma - Ott Page 278

POPE’S POWER OF LITURGICAL DISCIPLINE

Padre Pio offered the New Mass on Pope Paul VI, on a table, facing the congregation. Why? Because "it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff" (Unam Sanctam, 1302, Pope Boniface VIII). "He who obeys the whole law, yet offends in one point, is guilty in all." (James 2:10) In "Cum muta sint" Pope Saint Leo XIII, 1882, states that one is sinning who appeals to past or future popes in order to justify being disobedient to the authority of the present Pope, "since the Church is One, her Head is One, her Government is One."

OLD LATIN MASS

62 posted on 08/07/2004 6:17:37 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: marshmallow
The Novus Ordo church is supposed to be dying, right? Yet here are these younger priests who are spurning the errors of the modernists, embrace all the teachings of the Catholic Church and love the Pope.

Joyful thanksgiving to God bump.


63 posted on 08/07/2004 6:27:54 AM PDT by GirlShortstop (« O sublime humility! That the Lord... should humble Himself like this... »)
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