Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
And, of course, the association of Latin with the traditionalist movement rather than with Catholicism itself, only makes any sense in the context of the radical liberal modernism which attempted to get rid of the Latin Mass entirely (incorrectly claiming a mandate to do so from Vatican II).

My point in saying Latin doesn't make you Catholic is to make the point that sedavacanists and schismatics of all stripes are attempting to tear down the rightful authority of the Holy See, and play into the most malingering of false reformers.

Those false reformers are happy to sign oaths they don't mean and lie to hold positions in order to cause disorder. Having people fight over the form of the Mass allows them to make back door reforms like Altar Girls (which are not really approved) and to force the Communion in the Hand (not as an option, but compulsory).

I do agree that the Indult is supposed to be widespread. It isn't. Why not? I think that it is because of some who take advantage of the schism. They spread fear to say there is no justice to be found in the Church, and instead of following the remedies found in Canon law and protest, they simply protest. They build personal followers, and not followers of Christ.

Filing letters and appeals are just as important as showing up to pray loudly when a pagan or proabort is asked to speak at the Church.

I know I called the Chancery when Call to Action advertised they were using a local Parish, and showed up to see if the meeting was canceled.

Why would a Bishop allow an indult for people that is saying "screw you" to his administration, acts outside the processes of the Church, and acts like they will be wronged no matter what he does?

St. Thomas Moore was a lawyer to the end, trying to find any way to get his point across with in the system, even as they were ready to execute him unjustly. People protested as they did then, but they also used the system against Henry forcing him to ignore his own law publicly.

That paper trail is important because it shows our obedience to the lawful authority, while we refuse to carry out specific unlawful orders.
628 posted on 08/04/2004 6:35:47 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 623 | View Replies ]


To: Dominick

The schismatic element within the traditionalist movement of Catholicism is so small it's a complete waste of time to be getting upset about at all anymore than it would be to spend hours upon hours worrying about the wacko Protestant fundamentalist heretics in the backwoods of the American south.


629 posted on 08/04/2004 7:52:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 628 | View Replies ]

To: Dominick

"Why would a Bishop allow an indult for people that is saying "screw you" to his administration, acts outside the processes of the Church, and acts like they will be wronged no matter what he does?"

Ummm....because the Holy Father told him to?


631 posted on 08/04/2004 10:58:56 PM PDT by dsc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 628 | View Replies ]

To: Dominick; GratianGasparri
allows them to make back door reforms like Altar Girls (which are not really approved)

Actually, altar-ettes ARE approved--or perhaps, "they are not disapproved" is the correct phrase.

IIRC this decision rests on the precedent established by Pius XII who allowed women to sing in church choirs back in the mid-1950's. THAT decision was made on the basis that such singing was not a formal 'ministry,' (such as Acolyte, Sub-Deacon, etc....)

Ping to the canonist for a more informed opinion.

634 posted on 08/05/2004 5:10:59 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 628 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson