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To: pascendi
I don't support the vitriolic diatribes that take place between the allegedly "orthodox" defenders of Vatican II and the schismatic traditionalists. There are a number of valid points in the traditionalist movement which are worthy of attention by all Catholics.

But there are just as many "kooky" and "goofy" things going on in the official church under Vatican II and John Paul II and, indeed, among the allegedly "orthodox" champions of this pontificate. Silliness is not limited to the liberal modernists, wacko dissenters, and homosexuals.

613 posted on 08/04/2004 12:51:04 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I don't have a problem with the contention that secret societies exist which aim to destroy the Church, and some of their members are ranking officials within the Church.

Makes perfect sense, as a matter of fact.

But I have a problem with those who construct a Byzantine complexity-of-conspiracy theory which in the end makes EVERYONE a member of one conspiracy or another.

It gets a little silly, you know?


615 posted on 08/04/2004 12:57:22 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Just because you speak Latin, doesn't make you a Traditionalist, or Catholic.

But we all knew that here, didn't we?


619 posted on 08/04/2004 2:50:38 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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