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To: M007; Viva Christo Rey; Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; Patrick Madrid; sinkspur
I could never leave the Holy See. I would not even go to church at all if I did not have the Pope and the Magisterium to lead and guide me.

From a letter written by the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, on the long term effects of attending mass at an SSPX chapel.

"While it is true that participation in the Mass at the chapels of the Society of St. Pius X does not of itself constitute "formal adherence to the schism", such adherence can come about over a period of time as one slowly imbibes a schismatic mentality which separates itself from the teaching of the Supreme Pontiff and the entire Catholic Church classically exemplified in A Rome and Econe Handbook which states in response to question 14 that the SSPX defends the traditional catechisms and therefore the Old Mass, and so attacks the Novus Ordo, the Second Vatican Council and the New Catechism, all of which more or less undermine our unchangeable Catholic faith.

It is precisely because of this schismatic mentality that this Pontifical Commission has consistently discouraged the faithful from attending Masses celebrated under the aegis of the Society of St. Pius X."

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What you are witnessing on this thread is precisely the schismatic mentality, to which Msgr. Camille Perl is referring.

107 posted on 07/31/2004 9:59:37 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: NYer
What you are witnessing on this thread is precisely the schismatic mentality

Yet, you have the gall to defend a "Catholic" journalist who aborted his own child.

113 posted on 07/31/2004 10:05:52 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: NYer
"What you are witnessing on this thread is precisely the schismatic mentality, to which Msgr. Camille Perl is referring."

You can blame the Novus Ordo and the Second Vatican Council for driving them into this position in the first place.

You can blame yourself every time you dig your head in the sand and every time you point your finger at the traditionalists instead of asking yourself what the real truth is behind what's wrong with the Church.

You can blame the prelates, virtually all of them, for betraying the Bride of Christ.
114 posted on 07/31/2004 10:06:27 PM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: NYer

Msgr Perle is a notorious tradition-hater. The bit about the "schismatic mentality" is a cover for Rome's unjust and punitive assumption about traditionalist schism in the first place. It never actually existed except in the fevered imagination of the modernist Vatican in its hot pursuit of anyone clinging to Catholic Tradition, the SSPX in particular. Nobody else in fact much bothered Rome--neither pederasts nor apostates at the highest level. Instead, in its deluded hostility to Tradition, it confused genuine Catholicism with opposition to the heterodox Pontiff himself. It still thinks this way. But traditionalists are not about to mix the fullness of the Catholic faith with politically correct New Church novelties for the sake of being well-thought of by the likes of Msgr. Perle and the Vatican bureaucracy.


125 posted on 07/31/2004 10:34:51 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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