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To: Destro
That Creed was prepared by St. Epiphanius, an Orthodox saint. If the Catholics are to be condemned for the explanatory filioque, so should St. Epiphanius.

That the Catholics supposedly need to add all those extras to explain the faith as compsed perfectly in the final Creed is sad.

One might as well say that all Councils after Nicaea were unnecessary. After all:

The synod of Nicaea produced this creed: We believe in one God the Father all powerful, maker of all things both seen and unseen. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten begotten from the Father, that is from the substance of the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made, Consubstantial with the Father, through whom all things came to be, both those in heaven and those in earth; for us humans and for our salvation he came down and became incarnate, became human, suffered and rose up on the third day, went up into the heavens, is coming to judge the living and the dead. And in the holy Spirit. And those who say "there once was when he was not", and "before he was begotten he was not", and that he came to be from things that were not, or from another hypostasis or substance, affirming that the Son of God is subject to change or alteration these the catholic and apostolic church anathematises.

It seems fitting that all should assent to this holy creed. It is pious and sufficiently helpful for the whole world. (Council of Ephesus, Session 6)


30 posted on 07/29/2004 9:08:58 PM PDT by gbcdoj
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To: gbcdoj

There is no Orthodox or Catholic "saints" pre schisim. The church was one - all the saints the West had pre schisim are honored also by the orthodox as are the popes - via the use of pryaers and feast days.


61 posted on 07/30/2004 6:39:19 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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