[sinkspur]

Yet, we traditionalists are the uncharitable ones?

By a mile.

Besides, I discount every single supposed deathbed statement, especially when it involves a Cardinal who opposed Vatican II using that deathbed statement to justify his POV.

[Blessed Charlemagne]

"Besides, I discount every single supposed deathbed statement, especially when it involves a Cardinal who opposed Vatican II using that deathbed statement to justify his POV."

Now that is interetesting. This wretched Crdinal who "opposed Vatican II" was chosen by Pope John Paul II to be Prefect of Clegy. What a choice!

Can you substantiate anything you have saud?