[ultima ratio]

The suppression of the Novus Ordo is necessary because it is a protestantizing Mass in direct opposition to Trent. That is to say, it is not a Catholic Mass. The two Masses are simply irreconcileable, each belonging to a different religion. Do you think the modernist bishops don't realize this? This is why they despise the traditional Mass and have always sought to suppress it. It was why Roman modernists persecuted Lefebvre in the first place. The old Mass represents the doctrines and theology of a Church they opposed and still oppose.

[Dominick]

The suppression of the Novus Ordo is necessary because it is a protestantizing Mass in direct opposition to Trent

It is authentically Catholic instituted by thew Pope. Trent is not violated, because the accidentals of the Mass can be changed. In any case the Order of Mass is not a dogma, so it was changed>

That is to say, it is not a Catholic Mass.

Preposterous baiting. The Novus Ordo and Tridentine are indeed Cathloic Liturgies.

The two Masses are simply irreconcileable, each belonging to a different religion.

Editorializing aside they both belong to Catholicism. This division is exactly the stumbling block. I wonder how stupid it will look when Fellay returns to the Church and discusses this point.

The old Mass represents the doctrines and theology of a Church they opposed and still oppose.

The dogma and doctrines are the same. The Theology is Catholic> They innovation in dogma (actually it is a old position) is the SSPX goes against the will of God. The Pope can bind on earth and loose on earth. He loosed the SSPX, and bound everyone to obedience to him, not by lip service as the liberal Bishops or the SSPX does, but in action as Bishop Vasa or Bishop Galeone has shown.

Every schismatic will declare a valid excommunication a nullity, but it has the weight of the Church behind it. I hope you wise up before it is too late, and that by holding this position you oppose Christ's Church by holding this schismatic position. Moral nullity indeed, thats what I heard about Humane Vitae from a parishioner. Every person subject to justice has an excuse, moral nullity that same as a prisoner saying, "I ain't guilty, now gimme a cigarette before I cut you".

Like I said before it is like the parable of the two sons. One said he would go to the fields and didn't and the second said he wasn't going, and then thought better of it and went. What you say is different from what you do.

[Mershon]

"That is to say, it is not a Catholic Mass. The two Masses are simply irreconcileable, each belonging to a different religion."

In your personal opinion. This is a heretical point of view that is not reconcilable with Church teaching. A Pope cannot promulgate a new liturgy that is not Catholic. This goes against the indefectability of the Church. The logical conclusion from this is sedevacantism--whether you recognize or acknowledge it or not.