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Does the Holy Spirit proceed from just God the Father, as Orthodox doctrine has insisted since 381? Or from the Father and the Son, as the Vatican decreed in 1014, when it rewrote the Nicene Creed? (That change has divided the two Christian branches for nearly 1,000 years.)

"This is still under discussion by the Vatican," Schreck said, "but when Pope John Paul prays with the Orthodox, he prays as they do as a way of seeking to reconcile the two branches. The Western Catholic Church's view is influenced by St. Augustine's writing of the Holy Spirit as a mutual procession from the Father and the Son."

1 posted on 07/16/2004 9:50:42 PM PDT by narses
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Does the Holy Spirit proceed from just God the Father, as Orthodox doctrine has insisted since 381? Or from the Father and the Son, as the Vatican decreed in 1014, when it rewrote the Nicene Creed? (That change has divided the two Christian branches for nearly 1,000 years.)

"This is still under discussion by the Vatican," Schreck said, "but when Pope John Paul prays with the Orthodox, he prays as they do as a way of seeking to reconcile the two branches. The Western Catholic Church's view is influenced by St. Augustine's writing of the Holy Spirit as a mutual procession from the Father and the Son."


2 posted on 07/16/2004 9:51:29 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses

I'm sure even the "orthodox" agree that the Holy Ghost does NOT proceed from the Charismatic Renewal.
Charischismatics is a more appropriate term.


5 posted on 07/16/2004 11:15:41 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: narses

I wonder how many who post on this thread consider themselves to be Charismatic. I've wondered this for some time. Are there any Catholics here who were or are involved in the Charismatic Movement within the Catholic Church?


12 posted on 07/17/2004 4:11:31 AM PDT by Diva
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