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To: Dominick

Your opinion of the SSPX is not binding as the SSPX is not outside the Church. I have posted Cardinal Hoyos most recent statement this year several times on different threads. Beyond that, I don't care to assist you in hijacking this thread into another traditionalist bashing screed.

As to my personal situation, I don't care to discuss it with the likes of you.


44 posted on 07/18/2004 5:29:18 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Fair enough, it is a shame you associate a personal hatred for me with a zeal to defend the Pope in Rome and the Novus Ordo rite. I asked you about the situation from compassion, and if that isn't good enough for you then, I am sorry. I decided not to ping mail you, lest you take this the wrong way, or accuse me of posting a nonsense freep mail.

Do not make the error Ultima Ratio made, assuming I am saying Traditionalists are outside the Church, I spoke only of the SSPX. I can say it only because it is written in black and white.

I was looking for Cardinal Hoyos information and looking farther into his thoughts on this matter I found a great definition for Traditionalist, from here, on Free Republic which I think fit a lot of us better than association with the SSPX:
I don't like, indeed, those views that would like to reduce the traditionalist "phenomenon" to only the celebration of the ancient rite, as if it were an stubborn and nostalgic attachment to the past. That does not correspond to the reality that it is lived within this vast group of faithful. In reality, what we frequently find is a Christian view of the life of faith and of devotion - shared by so many catholic families that frequently are enriched by many children - that has special characteristics, and we can mention as examples: a strong sense of belonging to the Mystical Body of Christ, a desire to maintain strong links with the past - that wishes to be seen, not in contrast with the present but in a line of continuity with the Church - to preserve the principal teachings of the faith, a profound desire for spirituality and the sacred, etc. The love for the Lord and for the Church, finds within the particular Christian views of these faithful its highest expression through their attachment to the ancient liturgical and devotional forms, that have accompanied the Church through the centuries of her history.

Like I said I am sorry you misinterpret my question.

Toards the end he expresses my true feelings on the subject:
For this reason I wish that this dialogue would arrive at the desired stage of the full regularization of the Fraternity of Saint Pius X and that we could build together, in the Church, that desired unity which Christ has willed, while at the same time always respecting the legitimate diversities, which can be seen not as antagonistic, but as complementary.

God Bless you then...
46 posted on 07/18/2004 6:13:53 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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