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To: lupie

There are some areas of scripture which are of particular importance over and above others.

The Pater Noster (or Lord's Prayer), for example, is considered the greatest prayer because it was addressed from God the Son to God the Father, and given to us by Christ Himself. There are many prayers in the Bible, obviously, but this one considered chief among them. That doesn't mean the others aren't prayers, or aren't true, but that this one is more important.

Or, for another example, I don't think one needs to know the story of Esther's efforts to save God's people in the Old Testament in order to get to heaven. One does need to know of Christ's redemption of mankind on Calvary, though.

These examples don't mean that the gospel accounts of the passion of Christ are true, and Esther's story isn't. It simply shows that there are some parts of scripture which are of particular importance, which I think is the thrust of NYer's argument.


89 posted on 07/14/2004 7:06:34 PM PDT by bonaventura
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To: bonaventura
There are some areas of scripture which are of particular importance over and above others.

I respectfully very much disagree with you but I am not inclined to go down that road very far. Just suffice it to say that yes, the Lord's prayer is "important", but so are all the other prayers. John 17 is a key one, but so is Hannah's prayer, all of the Psalms that are prayers, etc.

Or, for another example, I don't think one needs to know the story of Esther's efforts to save God's people in the Old Testament in order to get to heaven. One does need to know of Christ's redemption of mankind on Calvary, though.

It isn't just about Esther efforts to save God's people - it is about the God she serves and about how He redeems His people and destroyed the enemy despite the enemies plans. That is the God who became flesh in order to satisfy His own requirements of all the sacrifices and redeem us. And just knowing this does not guarantee eternal life. It is about knowing the person of God intimately and trusting God for our redemption, Jesus Christ and wanting Him to change our life. And all of scripture teaches us about WHO He is, and who we are and the consequences of trusting in ourselves, or in Him. Yes, the gospel message is in Esther. And in Ruth, and Leviticus, and Zechariah, and Titus, etc..

What NY very much implied was that the books written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John on the life of the Lord were Truth and Paul's books were not. That is why I posted - to point out the error in what he so bodly implied. I understand more than your realize what his overall argument was. It just doesn't happen to be right. :)

In Jesus

105 posted on 07/15/2004 2:42:59 PM PDT by lupie
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