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Christian Teens? Not Very.
OpinionJournal.com ^ | July 9, 2004 | Dale Buss

Posted on 07/09/2004 10:05:34 AM PDT by maryz

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To: siunevada

You sound like an excellent teacher!


21 posted on 07/09/2004 3:06:58 PM PDT by maryz
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To: frnk

The article notes that Catholic youth are not exempt from the trends the author describes. He does say more about Protestant youth because he knows that area best.


22 posted on 07/09/2004 3:11:12 PM PDT by maryz
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I'm just some guy from the pews. They asked for volunteers and threw me in there. Considering what Scripture has to say about the responsibility of teachers, I REALLY don't want to be referred to as a teacher. Or a ' minister ' either.

I prefer 'oldest person in the group'.


23 posted on 07/09/2004 3:27:03 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: maryz

INTREP - TEENAGERS


24 posted on 07/09/2004 11:14:12 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America)
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To: Rightly Biased

Ping

(related info - i.e. "Are our kids more holy than kids 15 years ago?")


25 posted on 07/10/2004 8:56:06 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: maryz; siunevada; franky; Aquinasfan; Mark in the Old South; frnk; Rutles4Ever
About 60% agree that enough good works will earn them a place in heaven, in part reflecting a Catholic view, but also flouting Protestantism's central theme of salvation only by grace.

From the newest translation (Lk 10:25-37),

There was a scholar of the law who stood up to test him and said, "Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" He said to him, "What!!! You ask about DOING WORKS??? Don't you do nothing, by grace alone ye shall be saved, remember what master Luther sayeth: sola gratia and sola scriptura. Bye-bye now. Next!"

26 posted on 07/10/2004 12:16:13 PM PDT by heyheyhey
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I heard Rush yesterday going on about an exactly opposite article from this one and I was gonna look for it and ping you to it I'll look when I get home I'm on dial up at my Moms right now and I despise searching on a dial up.


27 posted on 07/10/2004 1:11:39 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Check this out.


http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=40424


I know we are not to cross post but in reading the article for this thread all I can say is as I have said before the youts are looking to be better but we are failing as a church to get them there.They come to services and we see they are "different" and we send em off somewhere else on the Church facilities with the most "mature" young adult to deal with them.And in my understanding of the posted article the youts are better than 15-20 years ago.
28 posted on 07/11/2004 4:54:00 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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Great article!

The 70's are over... - Darn! It might be bad news to the crowds of "experts" on the youth; they will have to update.

29 posted on 07/11/2004 10:33:15 AM PDT by heyheyhey
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From the newest translation (Lk 10:25-37),

That's one loose translation!

30 posted on 07/12/2004 9:24:59 AM PDT by siunevada
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About 60% agree that enough good works will earn them a place in heaven, in part reflecting a Catholic view

According to the Council of Trent, a Catholic who espouses that so-called "Catholic view" is a state of material heresy:

"If anyone says that, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, man can be justified before God by his own works, whether they were done by his natural powers or by the light of the teaching of the [Mosaic] Law, let him be anathema" -- Decree on Justification, Canon #1, 13 January 1547.

31 posted on 10/29/2004 11:02:46 PM PDT by Campion
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