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To: Grey Ghost II
Does that make it true?

Of course it does.

A Pope is elected according to very specific norms.

No one has ever presented a shred of evidence that these norms were not followed and everyone who participated in and monitored the election personally testified to its validity in writing.

Ballamand Agreement,

The Balamand Statement contains no contradictions with Catholic doctrine in any way.

It teaches that the Orthodox churches are in schism from the Catholic Church, that the schism is a sad historical situation, that the Orthodox churches contain legitimate sacraments and that the Church will pursue reconciliation at the highest level rather than an aggressive campaign of proselytization on the individual level. This is no different than the Council of Lyon.

Catholic Lutheran Accord

There is no "accord". There is a joint declaration, which states correctly in accordance with Catholic doctrine, that we are justified by God's grace.

and the Catechism (which had to be recalled shortly after publication).

The Pope promulgated the Latin editio typica, he did not promulgate the flawed vernacular translations.

you have presented no facts that demonstrate that he is Pope. I'm still waiting

You can play this game as long as you please. You are the one claiming that the Pope who is acknowledged by the entire Catholic world as Pope through legitimate election is an impostor.

The burden of proof remains on your shoulders. You need to explain why an election which was exact and correct in all particulars was, unbeknowst to everyone involved, flawed.

41 posted on 07/07/2004 9:57:18 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
No one has ever presented a shred of evidence that these norms were not followed and everyone who participated in and monitored the election personally testified to its validity in writing.

Sorry but I trust the Palm Beach County chad counters more than the College of Cardinals.

The Balamand Statement contains no contradictions with Catholic doctrine in any way.

The Balamand Statement reads: "In this spirit Pope John Paul II and Ecumenical Patriarch Dimitrios I together stated clearly: "We reject every form of proselytism, every attitude which would be or could be perceived to be a lack of respect" (7 December 1987)". The Orthodox don't believe Mary was free from original sin. They also believe artifical birth control is not always sinful, and John Paul II says we shouldn't proseltize? That my friend, contradicts Catholic teaching.

There is a joint declaration, which states correctly in accordance with Catholic doctrine, that we are justified by God's grace.

It also incorrectly states that the joint declaration "encompasses a consensus on basic truths of the doctrine of justification and shows that the remaining differences are no longer the occasion for doctrinal condemnations.” So we are no longer supposed to condemn falsehoods?

51 posted on 07/07/2004 10:42:39 AM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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